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SteveG 
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Posted: December 16 2014 at 18:40 |
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After the departure of Holdsworth and Bruford from UK, FZ drummer Terry Bozzio joined the group to record Danger Money. I feel the album would have been well received if it didn't follow the original more fusion oriented debut album. What's your take on Danger Money?
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Posted: December 16 2014 at 18:42 |
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Much better than the debut.
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Posted: December 16 2014 at 19:37 |
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Danger Money is a stupendous record. I don't want to say they did ELP better than ELP, but while the former was grasping at straws in the latter half of the '70s, U.K. swooped in and did the symphonic power prog trio format justice with equally capable players (or if you prefer Jobson and/or Wetton and/or Bozzio, then more so).
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Posted: December 16 2014 at 20:23 |
When I was younger, I had quite a hunger For technically competent song So one day my mentor ~
A dude I lament for ~
Played me this after a bong. He wasn't quite sure what I would think
And frankly neither was I ;
After all, no guitar?
No, that won't do,
I'd miss that electrical cry.
But surely enough, without Holdsworth's muse
And Jobson no slouch at the helm,
This follow-up works, John Wetton berserk
Bozzio right in his realm. 'Rendezvous' rises from romantic lines
Built around Jobson's piano,
The next cut's a blast, aggressive and fast--
Wetton's voice contra soprano. Cesar is fine, if a bit plodding,
'Nothing to Lose' rather nice
Though the specter of Asia foresees euthanasia
And Prog's diminution enticed.
'Carrying No Cross' was a kicker, a timekeeper's ticker
Setting the bar far too high And in all its glory, we see prog rock's story,
Slated and ready to die.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: December 16 2014 at 20:36 |
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Bought it in the early 90's on the grounds of Jobson's prescence (I was obsessing over Curved Air's Air Cut album) and thought it was awesome. Still do.
The Only Thing She Needs was a total knock-out. Come to think of it, I think I rate the album as a personal 5 star. I prefer it to the debut, and I love Night After Night heaps as well.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: December 17 2014 at 03:07 |
The album knocked me out when I first heard it. I mean, the opening notes of the albums, the chords, the power... Great songs. Although I like the debut a bit more these days, I still think it's a sensational album.
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Gerinski
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Posted: December 17 2014 at 08:30 |
 Atavachron wrote:
When I was younger, I had quite a hunger
For technically competent songSo one day my mentor ~
A dude I lament for ~
Played me this after a bong. He wasn't quite sure what I would think
And frankly neither was I ;
After all, no guitar?
No, that won't do,
I'd miss that electrical cry.
But surely enough, without Holdsworth's muse
And Jobson no slouch at the helm,
This follow-up works, John Wetton berserk
Bozzio right in his realm. 'Rendezvous' rises from romantic lines
Built around Jobson's piano,
The next cut's a blast, aggressive and fast--
Wetton's voice contra soprano. Cesar is fine, if a bit plodding,
'Nothing to Lose' rather nice
Though the specter of Asia foresees euthanasia
And Prog's diminution enticed.
'Carrying No Cross' was a kicker, a timekeeper's ticker
Setting the bar far too high And in all its glory, we see prog rock's story,
Slated and ready to die. |
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Gerinski
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Posted: December 17 2014 at 08:32 |
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Fantastic album, it was surely hard coming out with something where you would not miss Holdsworth, and yet they managed to do it. Overall I still slightly prefer the debut tough. Indeed perhaps the swansong of classic Prog.
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Posted: December 17 2014 at 08:42 |
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The final flash of glory of the 1970's. A long time favourite.
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verslibre
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Posted: December 17 2014 at 10:42 |
Tom Ozric wrote:
Bought it in the early 90's on the grounds of Jobson's prescence (I was obsessing over Curved Air's Air Cut album) and thought it was awesome. Still do.
The Only Thing She Needs was a total knock-out. Come to think of it, I think I rate the album as a personal 5 star. I prefer it to the debut, and I love Night After Night heaps as well. |
Night After Night is still one of my favorite live albums. It crackles with solar fire. The entire thing could stink and I'd keep it for "Nothing To Lose."
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Posted: December 17 2014 at 11:44 |
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Loved the debut but was disappointed with DM. Only really enjoyed Carrying no Cross. The rest just sounded too mainstreamy. Plus I am a huge Holdsworth fan, so his departure didn't help things.
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Posted: December 17 2014 at 14:25 |
verslibre wrote:
Danger Money is a stupendous record. I don't want to say they did ELP better than ELP, but while the former was grasping at straws in the latter half of the '70s, U.K. swooped in and did the symphonic power prog trio format justice with equally capable players (or if you prefer Jobson and/or Wetton and/or Bozzio, then more so). |
yep nuff said 
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Posted: December 17 2014 at 16:24 |
Tapfret wrote:
Loved the debut but was disappointed with DM. Only really enjoyed Carrying no Cross. The rest just sounded too mainstreamy. Plus I am a huge Holdsworth fan, so his departure didn't help things. |
I am also very high on Holdsworth, so that's probably my problem with DM as well.
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Posted: December 17 2014 at 16:27 |
Atavachron wrote:
When I was younger, I had quite a hunger
For technically competent songSo one day my mentor ~
A dude I lament for ~
Played me this after a bong. He wasn't quite sure what I would think
And frankly neither was I ;
After all, no guitar?
No, that won't do,
I'd miss that electrical cry.
But surely enough, without Holdsworth's muse
And Jobson no slouch at the helm,
This follow-up works, John Wetton berserk
Bozzio right in his realm. 'Rendezvous' rises from romantic lines
Built around Jobson's piano,
The next cut's a blast, aggressive and fast--
Wetton's voice contra soprano. Cesar is fine, if a bit plodding,
'Nothing to Lose' rather nice
Though the specter of Asia foresees euthanasia
And Prog's diminution enticed.
'Carrying No Cross' was a kicker, a timekeeper's ticker
Setting the bar far too high And in all its glory, we see prog rock's story,
Slated and ready to die.
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Hey! Did you took this off of someone's headstone? Just kidding. Great word play. Hmm...I know a muso writer looking for a lyricist...
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Posted: December 17 2014 at 16:33 |
It's so different in feel from the 1st UK I nearly consider it a separate band. I enjoy both albms but seeing UK open for Tull on the '79 Stormwatch tour makes Danger Money extra special 
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SteveG
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Posted: December 17 2014 at 16:54 |
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^I remember that concert pairing. It must have been awesome.
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Posted: December 17 2014 at 16:59 |
SteveG wrote:
After the departure of Holdsworth and Bruford from UK, FZ drummer Terry Bozzio joined the group to record Danger Money. I feel the album would have been well received if it didn't follow the original more fusion oriented debut album. What's your take on Danger Money?
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It didn't follow the "original more fusion oriented debut album." They turned into a three-piece, guitarless, power-prog outfit.
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SteveG
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Posted: December 17 2014 at 17:03 |
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^Isn't that what I said? I take it on faith that prog fans know the deal with these two albums, so I apologize if I was short on exposition.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: December 17 2014 at 18:00 |
verslibre wrote:
Tom Ozric wrote:
Bought it in the early 90's on the grounds of Jobson's prescence (I was obsessing over Curved Air's Air Cut album) and thought it was awesome. Still do.
The Only Thing She Needs was a total knock-out. Come to think of it, I think I rate the album as a personal 5 star. I prefer it to the debut, and I love Night After Night heaps as well. |
Night After Night is still one of my favorite live albums. It crackles with solar fire. The entire thing could stink and I'd keep it for "Nothing To Lose." |
Should've been a double LP instead of what it is - I have to say I love the two new songs they performed here as well. Jobson's violin leads are just searing - esp. Time To Kill.
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Posted: December 17 2014 at 18:57 |
Tom Ozric wrote:
verslibre wrote:
Tom Ozric wrote:
Bought it in the early 90's on the grounds of Jobson's prescence (I was obsessing over Curved Air's Air Cut album) and thought it was awesome. Still do.
The Only Thing She Needs was a total knock-out. Come to think of it, I think I rate the album as a personal 5 star. I prefer it to the debut, and I love Night After Night heaps as well. |
Night After Night is still one of my favorite live albums. It crackles with solar fire. The entire thing could stink and I'd keep it for "Nothing To Lose." |
Should've been a double LP instead of what it is - I have to say I love the two new songs they performed here as well. Jobson's violin leads are just searing - esp. Time To Kill. |
Absolutely. That's the only thing that could improve it. And ditto on the new songs.
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