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    Posted: February 20 2015 at 10:56
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2015 at 05:19
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

I have used rubber mats, cork and the cheap felt ones.......None really add appreciable sonic value. I look for mats to help eliminate static, which cork does very well.

I have found the best way to eliminate static is with the anti-static inners, which fit snuggly inside the paper one that the record comes in.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2015 at 05:19
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

I have used rubber mats, cork and the cheap felt ones.......None really add appreciable sonic value. I look for mats to help eliminate static, which cork does very well.
 
I prefer the cork mats that decouple the vinyl from the platter, those I do hear a very slight difference in the bass regions, just tightens it up some. But yea I have read the night and day improvements people claim...They help but not that much.
 
There are carbon fiber mats that sell for like $200..claim all sorts of stuff will happen.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2015 at 05:18
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

I have used rubber mats, cork and the cheap felt ones.......None really add appreciable sonic value. I look for mats to help eliminate static, which cork does very well.

I have found the best way to eliminate static is with the anti-static inners, which fit snuggly inside the paper one that the record comes in.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2015 at 05:14
considering it has no grading on the surface it bonds to the record very well and I figure I don't need a clamp now.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2015 at 18:58
I have used rubber mats, cork and the cheap felt ones.......None really add appreciable sonic value. I look for mats to help eliminate static, which cork does very well.
 
I prefer the cork mats that decouple the vinyl from the platter, those I do hear a very slight difference in the bass regions, just tightens it up some. But yea I have read the night and day improvements people claim...They help but not that much.
 
There are carbon fiber mats that sell for like $200..claim all sorts of stuff will happen.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2015 at 17:54
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

^ Very cool.....What thickness is that clear mat?

I have a non-transparent acrylic mat and, for the love of Fripp, I can't hear any sonic difference between it and the regular, rubber-like ones. 

Perhaps, I need to upgrade my ears :)
Thank you, Fripp, for our daily Prog (Red 39:54)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2015 at 17:20
I would like a clear mat.....Will look into that for my table.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2015 at 13:04
2 mm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2015 at 12:00
^ Very cool.....What thickness is that clear mat?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 19 2015 at 09:46
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

^ Clap Nice Roxbrough!! Get rid of that krappy felt mat and get a better one, cheap tweak and you will thank yourself later.
I use the Music Hall cork mat.......What alignment method did you use?


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SRM/TECH Clear Acrylic Turntable Platter Mat came today Catcher.

You were right, another veil has lifted from in front of the music.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 11 2015 at 11:59
I have now had time to thoroughly test my two cartridges.
Ortofon 2M red
Ortofon 2M blue
Both have been in an rega RB303, mounted on a rega RP6
Feeding a rega turntable amp.

I like the red better!!!!!

It's more even, more polite.
The blue shouts in the mid where the red has all frequencies in balance.

Thoughts anyone?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2015 at 18:25
^ Krell
Thank you, Fripp, for our daily Prog (Red 39:54)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2015 at 16:53
Originally posted by Roxbrough Roxbrough wrote:


The cone replacement may well have been due to soft clipping.
I suggest Krel amplification.
 
I wish I knew what this meant ... it's a speaker with an air motion transformer, a huge bass speaker (that has been coned twice0 and a big, hard wood case for it.
 
I'll look up "krel amplification" but the only Krel I ever met was in a movie ... 60 years ago or so!   Smile
 
ED: Btw, that was coned TWICE in 35 years! The speakers were bought in 1978, I think along with a UHER cassette player (it was good too until it couldn't be fixed!)


Edited by moshkito - February 08 2015 at 12:33
Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2015 at 03:57
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Roxbrough Roxbrough wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

 
I always thought that the difference between music and crap was a good turntable, cartridge and speakers! In those days! Tangerine Dream jumped and went around your head silly ... the Rolling Stones were just loud by comparison!

I would question your order there and put it this way;
turntable, cartridge, amp and finally speakers.
If you lose it earlier in the chain no speaker is going to claw it back, it's a physical impossibility.
 
Fair enough ... but you HAD TO HAVE a very big and strong receiver to be able to drive 2 ESS HEIL AMT's ... which I still have and they have been cone'd twice here in Portland by Jamac! And the old man there, says ... keep those speakers ... they don't make magnets that big or that valuable any more!

The cone replacement may well have been due to soft clipping.
I suggest Krel amplification.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2015 at 03:56
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

^ Clap Nice Roxbrough!! Get rid of that krappy felt mat and get a better one, cheap tweak and you will thank yourself later.
I use the Music Hall cork mat.......What alignment method did you use?

I used the rega alignment protractor and checked the downward force with Ortofon scales.
The balance sounds spot on so I guess it's okay
Jeff Wayne - War of the Worlds the 1978 pressing on the turntable today.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 06 2015 at 13:13
Originally posted by Roxbrough Roxbrough wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

 
I always thought that the difference between music and crap was a good turntable, cartridge and speakers! In those days! Tangerine Dream jumped and went around your head silly ... the Rolling Stones were just loud by comparison!

I would question your order there and put it this way;
turntable, cartridge, amp and finally speakers.
If you lose it earlier in the chain no speaker is going to claw it back, it's a physical impossibility.
 
Fair enough ... but you HAD TO HAVE a very big and strong receiver to be able to drive 2 ESS HEIL AMT's ... which I still have and they have been cone'd twice here in Portland by Jamac! And the old man there, says ... keep those speakers ... they don't make magnets that big or that valuable any more!


Edited by moshkito - February 06 2015 at 13:15
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 06 2015 at 11:37
^ Clap Nice Roxbrough!! Get rid of that krappy felt mat and get a better one, cheap tweak and you will thank yourself later.
I use the Music Hall cork mat.......What alignment method did you use?
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