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TeleStrat 
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Joined: December 27 2014 Location: Norwalk, CA Status: Offline Points: 9319 |
 Posted: February 10 2015 at 16:08 |
Mine is the Swedish Panta Rei released in 1973.
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jacksiedanny
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Joined: February 05 2015 Location: Ontario Status: Offline Points: 193 |
Posted: February 10 2015 at 16:16 |
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Telstrat:
Nelson (ex-Astral Navigations Holyground) -"Northern Dream " lp orig mono on Smile label UK, never was rare back in the day. Of course now near everything is rare. |
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jacksiedanny
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Joined: February 05 2015 Location: Ontario Status: Offline Points: 193 |
Posted: February 10 2015 at 16:18 |
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One lp I'd really like to have is the Triade - storia lp in origional copper cover.
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jacksiedanny
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Joined: February 05 2015 Location: Ontario Status: Offline Points: 193 |
Posted: February 10 2015 at 18:09 |
Wow. Hold onto that baby! .... Some of the rarest Swede lps are: Blueset-Rock Machine and Radiomobel - tramsbox. I'm not sure which is the rarest I have. Maybe SAN MICHEALS on the California label with the cheap thin cover. this was pre-Kaipa. |
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SteveG
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Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20507 |
Posted: February 10 2015 at 18:16 |
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^The wheels are in motion knobby/permy/jacksiedanny. Adios.
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jacksiedanny
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Joined: February 05 2015 Location: Ontario Status: Offline Points: 193 |
Posted: February 10 2015 at 18:50 |
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Speaking of copper covers: There is a German prog lp that is dead-rare.
It is doing my nut in trying to recall the band. Anyone? |
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jacksiedanny
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Joined: February 05 2015 Location: Ontario Status: Offline Points: 193 |
Posted: February 10 2015 at 18:54 |
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As I must have bemoaned on this forum a while ago - cos I bemoan it on all forums:
I once held in my hand one of the top twenty rare Italian prog lps . It was in the late 80s in a shop on Queen Street & Bathurst, Toronto. I had heard a bit tell of this band back then, but when I noted the word "saxophone" on the back cover , I put it back in the used bin. It was 8 bucks. I will never forget this. |
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TeleStrat
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Joined: December 27 2014 Location: Norwalk, CA Status: Offline Points: 9319 |
Posted: February 10 2015 at 22:20 |
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Another addition to the list:
Fantasy "Paint A Picture" UK 1973
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Tom Ozric
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Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15916 |
Posted: February 11 2015 at 00:22 |
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This Ramases album everyone mentions, Space Hymns, I bought for $20 years ago with the fold-out cover. The vinyl is on the 'Spaceships' variant of the Vertigo brand.
Got a few Ohr originals - Ash Ra Tempel, Tangerine Dream etc. Also a few Swedish things on the 'Silence' label - Samla Mammas Manna, Pekka Pohjola........ Even some 80's things on various private labels. I did get a Moving Gelatine Plates S/T album but the label is just the titles on a plain yellow label. Not CBS in the top left corner, just the 'M' in the same font as the title-artwork.... Stacks of French releases on Disjuncta and Urus (mainly Heldon and ZAO). I'm still really enjoying modern LP issues on Inside Out, Plane Groovy, Mellotronen etc. They will become quite scarce some day, for the next generation 'Holy Grail' LP's. |
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jacksiedanny
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Joined: February 05 2015 Location: Ontario Status: Offline Points: 193 |
Posted: February 11 2015 at 08:07 |
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All the same, that Moving Gelatine Plates you got is certainly a fine thing to have.
It doesn't take a genius to figure out that there are cases where EARLY vinyl reissues can actually be rarer (less pressed) than the rarities. Its only that the origional was hyped - not the reissue. I, for instance, have a early reissue of the first (UK) Kaleidoscope. A major dealer in Canada was VERY interested in it. He had never encountered this particular reissue. .............. It is important to know that acetates or test pressings are the only true rarities. These cannot be argued. You have availability and then you have rarity. These are different things altogether.(This is something Masterman Ron Moore taught me.) Say a lp was pressed in only 500. That is rare. Ahhh...but is it? Say it was pressed in 500 in 1970, but a band member chocked away 300 of those and in '92 puts them into circulation for first time and floods the (lucrative high end) market with them. Edited by jacksiedanny - February 11 2015 at 08:09 |
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jacksiedanny
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Joined: February 05 2015 Location: Ontario Status: Offline Points: 193 |
Posted: February 11 2015 at 08:34 |
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An example of not necessarily having to be a first press to be megarare:
PINK FLOYD - SAME (Toshiba, '71, Japan ) this collection of early Floyd was a promo. it is the rarest Floyd lp. At times sheer mystery helps. Untraceable bands. Games "Stargazer" is a big US prog rarity. |
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jacksiedanny
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Joined: February 05 2015 Location: Ontario Status: Offline Points: 193 |
Posted: February 11 2015 at 08:40 |
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Oftimes something amateurish-atrocious becomes sought after(moreorless) . Up there on the lofty Swedish rarities heights is the universally-condemned Malaria lp.
Released in only 50 copies and mainly to friends of the band. (The '91 reissue ,equally rare - 200 copies.) |
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jacksiedanny
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Joined: February 05 2015 Location: Ontario Status: Offline Points: 193 |
Posted: February 11 2015 at 09:03 |
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Then there arises the instance where the destruction factor comes into the rarity equation.
I am not speaking of marketting "destruction" where lps, due to tax scam reasons, were cut-cornered or brass-rivetted and put to cutout bins. Im talking deliberately withdrawn and immediately destroyed lps. (For instance, for a whiles there, Tomita's "Planets" because Holst's widow objected.) Warehouse fires, even whole lots destroyed or "misplaced" by customs officials and such. Then the very sad situation of bands themselves trashing their own: Solid Ground "Made In Rock" lp is acknowledged as Sweden's rarest rock lp. Trashed by the band who were vexed with the recording session. The Krautrock artist who, possibly a bit "touched" threw the whole lot into an icy river. |
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jacksiedanny
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Joined: February 05 2015 Location: Ontario Status: Offline Points: 193 |
Posted: February 11 2015 at 09:17 |
The rarest UKs which most in the know agree upon (in order): Dark Forever Amber Grannie Leafhound Ithaca Complex Samantha Promotions Nicolas Greenwood |
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SteveG
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Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20507 |
Posted: February 11 2015 at 09:23 |
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@jacksiedanny. I understand that you are now on a PA watch list jacksiedanny and have even claimed to be the victim of trolling yourself. I can easily dispute who went trolling first by looking at your first PA post to me in the Psych lounge, but that's not the topic of this post. However, that was the point of my negative treatment toward you as you feel that you are smarter than other members and shriek at the idea that you could be treated the same in return. I used this distasteful means to get you hopped up and shake you out. I very much doubt that you have learned anything after 2 dismal attempts to reingratiate yourself, as you still return with a site name that starts off with a lowercase letter! For the third time, now. Simply amazing! I will start this clearly. I expect you to steer clear of any post of mine such as the Psych lounge and and keep you vitriol (trolling) to yourself. There are quite a few forums on this site that I do not bother with as I question their function, depressing discussion topics and even the members who attend these discussions. I expect the same from you. Simply put: If you had kept your nose out of places where it shouldn't be, you would have not been banned twice and find your situation you are in now. This will be my one and only correspondence to you. Don't blow it again.
Edited by SteveG - February 11 2015 at 16:13 |
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jacksiedanny
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Joined: February 05 2015 Location: Ontario Status: Offline Points: 193 |
Posted: February 11 2015 at 09:23 |
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Then those lps released only as promos.
You will be surprized to know the rarest Vertigo is not - like I think I said before - Dr Z, but one much-less savoury to us proggies: Jim Croce - "Life & Times" (around 50 copies, whereas most vertigos were 2000-5000) Lost lps: speaking of Vertigo: Dave Kelly - same (Mercury) Nirvana "Songs for love & praise" (went to Phillips) |
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jacksiedanny
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Joined: February 05 2015 Location: Ontario Status: Offline Points: 193 |
Posted: February 11 2015 at 09:27 |
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American?
Too many to list (especially when you compare with UK where private press was almost non-existant). Still, ones I would personally like to have: Estes Brothers Beo Wulf October - after the fall Northwind Fresh Blueberry Pancake Search Party Jungle Tripsichord (with different paste-on cover) Christopher -watcha gonna do? Haymarket Square Kath I Only 1 or 2 copies known: Heitkotter Black Voy Alley |
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jacksiedanny
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Joined: February 05 2015 Location: Ontario Status: Offline Points: 193 |
Posted: February 11 2015 at 09:32 |
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Sorry Stevie.
My contribution to your Psych thread was unforgivable. What was i thinking to contribute to a topic I hold dear? |
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SteveG
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Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20507 |
Posted: February 11 2015 at 09:43 |
Do what's contrary to you, accept what I've suggested and move on.
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jacksiedanny
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Joined: February 05 2015 Location: Ontario Status: Offline Points: 193 |
Posted: February 11 2015 at 09:49 |
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Just who is the current bann-hammer weilder here?
Who is/are the mods??? Whom must I fear? |
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