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    Posted: March 03 2015 at 23:14
Le Orme, on all albums before Smogmagica when they eventually added Tolo Marton.
Lots of Hammond sounds and piano. On those early albums, like Felona e Sorona or Uomo Di Pezza, the bass player Aldo Tagliapietra would play accompaniment on acoustic guitar on quiet songs, but the keyboards are so prominent, that you will like them a lot.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 03 2015 at 18:48
Originally posted by tricksiebzehn tricksiebzehn wrote:

Originally posted by Rick Robson Rick Robson wrote:

No tricksiebzehn, unfortunately I don't have a last.fm profile, but looking forward to, thanks for sharing yours, will check it out.
   
Yeah ELP (as well as The Nice) managed quite well this matter, but I don't know Trace, is it from Netherlands? I don't know where I read once something about this band, and forgot to look for their discography.

Right, Trace is a prog act from Netherlands, at least the keyboarder is from Ekseption as far as I know. I would say they are a trio like ELP, playing music like Ekseption. The Track "Gaillarde" from album "Trace" is really good.
Trace - Gaillarde
 
    
Wow! Very beautiful music indeed, one more band for sure that I guess will be very pleased when dig into them. And right on, really felt there classical influences too (somewhat in the mood of Bach and Mozart), particularly the begining of this song somehow reminded me of it, returning to it again in the really stunning final part, great music. Been reading about Ekseption, very interesting band to check out too.
 
I'm suspecting you already know the swedish Par Lindh Project, very beautiful music, strong classical influences there too, and such a catchy rocking melodies, though almost no guitars at all, well so far I have only the album "Gothic Impressions" and love the whole album, now looking forward to the rest of his discography, listened to "Sky Door" (album Time Mirror) and loved it too. Interesting to point out that Par Lindh plays just 1 minute of electric guitar in "The Cathedral", and I guess that's all about guitar playing in Gothic Impressions.
  
Originally posted by tricksiebzehn tricksiebzehn wrote:


I remebered just now that Univers Zero make pretty good prog without/little use of guitars as far as I know, but just listened to "Uzed" until now.
Univers Zero - Presage
 
Right on, other hit on the spot, many thanks for your suggestions! Although UZ is far commented here in PA, I never gave priority to it, but after listening to this superbly interesting track it made up my mind, and if I'm not wrong I felt some chamber music influences, somehow most amazed me at my first listen so far, is that an electric violin which begins a stunning crescendo melody at the third min.? just amazing! Exciting the whole music indeed.
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 03 2015 at 13:35
Originally posted by tricksiebzehn tricksiebzehn wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

try these on for size...

two of my most favorite modern groups. .and damnit no one likes hard and heavy guitar orientated stuff more than me...

Ancestor's Tale: I like it, but the lyrics. Would be better without vocals for me. But will check this band out later.
Alec K. Redfearn and the Eyesores: Sounds ok, but the singer is not my cup of tea. Also, this is a bit to far from prog to me. But thanks anyways.



Yeah.. I can dig and understand the thoughts on Redfearn.. it is out there. Not for everyone LOL

However do check deeper into the Ut Gret album... was on many best of year lists. Even topping some, it did both Raffs and mine. A fantastic album, and the vocal tracks are the exception rather than the rule with the group. They are an instrumental group that had a guest vocalist on that paricular album and for only half the album.  I love them..  and especially her voice.. but if you don't dig.. still do check the band out.  I do think the whole of that album is now on Bandcamp for listening.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 03 2015 at 11:10
Originally posted by Rick Robson Rick Robson wrote:

No tricksiebzehn, unfortunately I don't have a last.fm profile, but looking forward to, thanks for sharing yours, will check it out.
 
Yeah ELP (as well as The Nice) managed quite well this matter, but I don't know Trace, is it from Netherlands? I don't know where I read once something about this band, and forgot to look for their discography.

Right, Trace is a prog act from Netherlands, at least the keyboarder is from Ekseption as far as I know. I would say they are a trio like ELP, playing music like Ekseption. The Track "Gaillarde" from album "Trace" is really good.



I remebered just now that Univers Zero make pretty good prog without/little use of guitars as far as I know, but just listened to "Uzed" until now.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 03 2015 at 01:14
Another modern but oft overlooked RPI band is Three Monks
 
Their two albums are both beauties although mainly feature pipe organ with very little synth and no electronic organ at all
 
Also the Jap bands Gerard and Ars Nova are worth checking out. From the latter I would go with Android Domino. That album has grown on me a lot recently.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2015 at 22:05
Originally posted by The-time-is-now The-time-is-now wrote:

From Yes, Magnification. No keys but an orchestra. The result is really good.
And a recent discovery, Syymphony of light by Renaissance. You reneed to listen to that!!


Actually, Renaissance might just as well qualify... at least the early classic albums. They do have guitars, but mainly acoustic simple guitars... the music is mainly suported by Annies voice, Tout's keyboards, and the orchestrations.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2015 at 22:03
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

So, no one's mentioned Rick Wakeman yet? Of course he should be checked out, specially 6 Wives, Journey, Arthur, and Criminal Record too. I guess Iamthemorning would be a good choice to check out from the new bands.

 
Wives does have some lead guitar although not a lot admittedly. I couldn't remember how much of those other albums feature guitar if at all.
 
The band I suggested Refugee did a complete symphonic keyboard lead album with no guitar. Lee Jackson never played any lead guitar unlike Greg Lake in ELP who did occasionally use it.


I think he had guitars on most of his prog albums (I'm almost sure he has guitars on Wives, Journey, and Arthur), but the music is definitley keyboard driven, and the guitar is used as an extra instrument. Criminal Record has just about no guitars. I think it actually doesn't have any at all.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2015 at 16:57
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

try these on for size...

two of my most favorite modern groups. .and damnit no one likes hard and heavy guitar orientated stuff more than me...

Ancestor's Tale: I like it, but the lyrics. Would be better without vocals for me. But will check this band out later.
Alec K. Redfearn and the Eyesores: Sounds ok, but the singer is not my cup of tea. Also, this is a bit to far from prog to me. But thanks anyways.


Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Refugee

Thanks, some nice moog sound in here.


Originally posted by Lear'sFool Lear'sFool wrote:

Quatermass, big time.

Thanks, some really cool tracks and some medicore stuff. Definitly not bad, but also not great.


Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

Greenslade
Rare Bird
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All rarely used guitar and all are brilliant at times.

Greenslade: I know this band and I love the hammond solos greenslade did for colosseum, but I just feel he doesn't perform at that level here. It's quite good, BUT: The vocals are... cruel. Another band that would be so much better without vocals. Sorry, they ruin it for me. Although "Sundance" is a really great track which I definitely listen to from time to time.
Rare Bird: Just heard the some tracks from "Sympathy", but it turned out that this album is just compilation. Was medicore in my opinion, but maybe "As your mind flies by" is better?
Solution: Great catch, many thanks! Seems like I missed a lot of good dutch stuff.


Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Triade
Still Life
Aardvark

Triade: Wow, rare to hear a cello (or double bass?) in progressive rock with some nice hammond parts. Really like it, thanks!
Still Life: Hm, not the kind of music that amazes me, maybe not progressive or eclectic enough for me.
Aadvark: Know them before, but same as for Still Life.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2015 at 11:55
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2015 at 11:34
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Rare Bird

This.

As Tony says, they did use guitars rarely, but they also had two keyboarderists...

What?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2015 at 09:00
Originally posted by tricksiebzehn tricksiebzehn wrote:



Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

A whole lotta Krautrock!  Wink

I heard a lot of Krautrock, any favorite?
Autobahn by Kraftwark for starters as it's all straight synth, then early Popol Vuh which utilized minimal guitar and Neu! which heavily utilized guitar but in strange droning styles. Cheers! 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2015 at 08:55

Hi,

Weird ... !!! I never really thought that a guitar was mandatory to make it progressive, as any instrument can perform that function well enough, but it is the listeners that do not see or understand that, and they are too comfy with a top ten rock music design to be able to listen to something without a guitar ... or a friend of mine that heard Ozric Tentacles for the 1st time 15 years ago, and 6 minutes into it, he goes ... "where's the lyrics?" ... and he never listened to it again!

It was kinda funny, when even something like "String Driven Thing" had a song about a band without a drummer!

Creativity is what makes it "progressive". Not anything else.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2015 at 01:51
Eclectic Prog band Esperanto from 1975. Two violins and a cello
but no guitar. XLNT cover of Eleanor Rigby.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2015 at 01:27
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

So, no one's mentioned Rick Wakeman yet? Of course he should be checked out, specially 6 Wives, Journey, Arthur, and Criminal Record too. I guess Iamthemorning would be a good choice to check out from the new bands.
 
Wives does have some lead guitar although not a lot admittedly. I couldn't remember how much of those other albums feature guitar if at all.
 
The band I suggested Refugee did a complete symphonic keyboard lead album with no guitar. Lee Jackson never played any lead guitar unlike Greg Lake in ELP who did occasionally use it.
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