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Cailyn
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Topic: Concept Albums Posted: March 25 2015 at 23:49 |
Concept albums are fairly common in Prog. How do feel about concept albums? I've hear comments both ways so I'm wondering what the consensus is among listeners.
Edited by Cailyn - March 25 2015 at 23:53
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 00:03 |
I'm sort of in the middle with the second and third option. If the music's not good, then I choose not to find more about it, thus not caring about the concept. However, I love the idea of them and it feels to me like a movie more than an album which is awesome.
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 02:51 |
Only care about the music. Aphrodite's Child 666 is one of my favourites, I like Quadrophenia , Lamb and The Wall only because the music is mostly good.
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 04:01 |
Somewhere in the middle between options #2 and #3; voted for the latter. If I want to listen to an album, it is because of the music. However, if I like the concept, it may add some value for me (a recent example: Voyager ).
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 05:47 |
richardh wrote:
Only care about the music. Aphrodite's Child 666 is one of my favourites, I like Quadrophenia , Lamb and The Wall only because the music is mostly good. | Same here.
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 05:54 |
Like anything else, it depends on the concept, the execution and the composition.
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 06:08 |
Put me in the "don't care as long as the music's good" camp . . . Concept albums either take me away (preferred!) or put me off. Nothing like a good journey!
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 06:43 |
I, like I'm sure most you'll find here, think that it's not the 'concept' of the concept album but the execution of the album that makes the difference. Therefore I'm squarely in the middle of this poll.
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 07:15 |
Don't care as long as the music is good = as long as I like the music.
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 07:48 |
Some are good, others no. Depends on the music.
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 08:13 |
As most of the previous posters have stated, not even a brilliant, original and enduring concept will rescue s.h.i.t. music.
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 08:27 |
Hi,
What's a concept?
We need Dean and Dark Elf to contemplate and then spread the word!
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 08:41 |
richardh wrote:
Only care about the music. Aphrodite's Child 666 is one of my favourites, I like Quadrophenia , Lamb and The Wall only because the music is mostly good. |
well as the above as I have the same albums which the music is mostly good... cool too!
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 12:21 |
The music is what is most important but a good concept helps. I would define a concept in this context as any kind of idea or theme which is explored through the medium of music. This is deliberately broad. The concept can tell a story or be a collection of different songs as long as they touch on the theme. Quadrophenia, Tommy, The Lamb, The Wall, all tell stories, while Tales From Topographic Oceans and anything from Alan Parsons do not. A concept album can be all instrumental, such as Jan Hammer's First Seven Days or Hackett's A Midsummer Night's Dream, but these are more exceptions rather than rules. There is plenty of room for diversity.
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 12:56 |
While I do love certain concepts, like Operation Mindcrime, Judas Priest's Nostradamus, Eloy's Ocean, etc. it really doesn't matter to me unless the music's good.
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 13:19 |
Am I the first and only concept lover?
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 16:37 |
Good concept albums are amazing (Subterranea, The Snow Goose)
Bad ones are excruciating.
But it's the music that matters most, especially if it fits the concept.
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 17:09 |
I'll go the popular answer as well.
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Posted: March 26 2015 at 17:14 |
Somewhere between the first 3, but I do love the concept of concept albums...
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Posted: March 27 2015 at 09:51 |
moshkito wrote:
Hi,
What's a concept?
We need Dean and Dark Elf to contemplate and then spread the word! |
In context with prog, or rock in general, concept albums require words: lyrics to initiate and continue the plotline of the concept. But I'm sure you have a dislike for concepts because they have lyrics and lyrics require songs and songs become hits and hits are anathema to you because a wide audience actually likes the song and that can't possibly be good because pretentious elitists like yourself cannot fathom anything being good and popular at the same time. In obscura est verum.
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