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Posted: March 30 2015 at 18:05
Alan Stivell, Corde Oblique, Iona, Faun, Mediæval Bæbes, and Fotheringay are probably my favorites--though only two of those really focus on the Celtic sound.
Don't know Horslips well enough yet to have formed an opinion on them.
Pentangle (rather English than Irish, but sometimes they have a Celtic touch)
Horslips
Clannad
Sweeney's Men (imho Proto-Prog Folk; they were the first to create a fusion with other genres)
kenethlevine wrote:
Raff wrote:
kenethlevine wrote:
oh and of course, with Raff here, let's not forget Angelo Branduardi whose folk is sometimes celtic influenced
. and to whom Raff introduced me
Indeed! There are also some very interesting folk-influenced Italian bands and artists, such as the Nuova Compagnia di Canto Popolare (unfortunately not on PA), though of course the influences are Mediterranean rather than Celtic.
omg thank you again. I will be looking for these. And have you heard OLOFERNE Raff? One of my favorite Celtic sounding Italian groups. How about CORDE OBLIQUE? I forgot to mention them in this thread. They are not really a rock group but play gorgeous ballads that are almost entirely acoustic
Talking about RPI, the latest gem in this subgenre, La Coscienza di Zeno's La Notte Anche do Giorno,shows some signs of Celtic influence. Every Iona fan should hear Giovane Figlia f. Lenta Discesa all'Averno at least once; any lover of Celtic Folk in general should hear the last minute of Madre Antica b. Cavanella at least twice.
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Posted: March 31 2015 at 09:09
The true Irish folk proggers would be Horslips, Iona and Clannad. The rest in this thread are British folk rock bands with Celtic influences and musical motifs added to their music such as jigs and reels.
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Posted: March 31 2015 at 09:15
SteveG wrote:
The true Irish folk proggers would be Horslips, Iona and Clannad. The rest in this thread are British folk rock bands with Celtic influences and musical motifs added to their music such as jigs and reels.
Hey Steve
Add the Morrigan and Moving Hearts to your list too.
We have also been talking a lot in this thread about Italian bands with celtic influence here, as well as Breton bands. Let's not forget Scottish bands like Runrig who had more than a little prog influence, especially in the early 1980s when prog was hard to come by. And then there is the wonder ful Welsh group PERERIN also from the early 1980s. Oh so many, yet paradoxically not enough.
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Posted: March 31 2015 at 10:31
SteveG wrote:
The true Irish folk proggers would be Horslips, Iona and Clannad. The rest in this thread are British folk rock bands with Celtic influences and musical motifs added to their music such as jigs and reels.
Meh, was never a big Horslips fan. I couldn't care less for Irish "prog", I prefer to have the Irish beaten o'er me head after several pints o' Guinness, hence the Pogues (and The Waterboys for a couple albums). Or here's a suggestion, go out and buy a compilation from Green Linnet Records for great traditional Gaelic.
As far as Scots music, ever heard of Ashley MacIsaac -- quite the damn good fiddler before he went off his head:
Another good Canadian band is Great Big Sea, Newfies with a great love for sea shanties and Celtic tradition. I also like Planxty and The Young Dubliners who play the best version of "Rocky Road to Dublin: I've ever heard:
...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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Posted: March 31 2015 at 11:31
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^I would if I liked them.
fair enough, just making sure you know them
In any case, the MORRIGAN and MOVING HEARTS are decidedly Irish and they are on these pages, which, rightly or wrongly, CLANNAD is not. For the record, CLANNAD are one of my favorite all time groups, and I don't care whether they are prog or not. I never cared much for IONA but yes they belong in this discussion.
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Posted: March 31 2015 at 13:27
The Dark Elf wrote:
SteveG wrote:
The true Irish folk proggers would be Horslips, Iona and Clannad. The rest in this thread are British folk rock bands with Celtic influences and musical motifs added to their music such as jigs and reels.
Meh, was never a big Horslips fan. I couldn't care less for Irish "prog", I prefer to have the Irish beaten o'er me head after several pints o' Guinness, hence the Pogues (and The Waterboys for a couple albums). Or here's a suggestion, go out and buy a compilation from Green Linnet Records for great traditional Gaelic.
As far as Scots music, ever heard of Ashley MacIsaac -- quite the damn good fiddler before he went off his head:
Another good Canadian band is Great Big Sea, Newfies with a great love for sea shanties and Celtic tradition. I also like Planxty and The Young Dubliners who play the best version of "Rocky Road to Dublin: I've ever heard:
Do you remember the late lamented FIGGY DUFF from Newfoundland?
LOved the POGUES, also love the somewhat related THE MEN THEY COULDN't HANG, who were Irish too O believe, and the English OYSTERBAND, who could have passed for Irish quite often. I was more lukewarm on WOLFSTONE, a Scottish group that seemed to play it a bit too safe.
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Posted: March 31 2015 at 13:43
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Do you remember the late lamented FIGGY DUFF from Newfoundland?
LOved the POGUES, also love the somewhat related THE MEN THEY COULDN't HANG, who were Irish too O believe, and the English OYSTERBAND, who could have passed for Irish quite often. I was more lukewarm on WOLFSTONE, a Scottish group that seemed to play it a bit too safe.
I always had a soft spot for Figgy Duff's version of "Now I'm 64". I used to play it with a Hohner Echo harmonica (for the added tremolo) and guitar at bars.
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Posted: March 31 2015 at 13:56
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King Planxty
wasn't the group just called PLANXTY?
Well, since we have mentioned two of his bands but have not mentioned the man himself, how about the guy whom Shane McGowan referred to as the greatest living Irishman, CHRISTY MOORE
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Posted: March 31 2015 at 14:24
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Do The Chieftans and Planxty count?
The Chieftans made a concept album with American blues guitarist Ry Cooder that spans Celtic, Native Mexican folk and "American" songs called SanPatricio that tells the true story of an Irish battalion that switched sides during the the US war with Mexico and were all hanged as deserters after the battle was lost. Not prog per se, but very heady music non the less.
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Posted: March 31 2015 at 14:26
kenethlevine wrote:
SteveG wrote:
^I would if I liked them.
fair enough, just making sure you know them
In any case, the MORRIGAN and MOVING HEARTS are decidedly Irish and they are on these pages, which, rightly or wrongly, CLANNAD is not. For the record, CLANNAD are one of my favorite all time groups, and I don't care whether they are prog or not. I never cared much for IONA but yes they belong in this discussion.
I not familiar enough with either Morrigan or MovingHearts to list as "favorites" as per the OP's question, but I will check into them more in the future.
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Posted: March 31 2015 at 15:25
SteveG wrote:
kenethlevine wrote:
SteveG wrote:
^I would if I liked them.
fair enough, just making sure you know them
In any case, the MORRIGAN and MOVING HEARTS are decidedly Irish and they are on these pages, which, rightly or wrongly, CLANNAD is not. For the record, CLANNAD are one of my favorite all time groups, and I don't care whether they are prog or not. I never cared much for IONA but yes they belong in this discussion.
I not familiar enough with either Morrigan or MovingHearts to list as "favorites" as per the OP's question, but I will check into them more in the future.
ok got it. By degrees we got off the original post
I was commenting on your statement that "The true Irish folk proggers would be Horslips, Iona and Clannad. The rest in this thread are British folk rock bands with Celtic influences and musical motifs added to their music such as jigs and reels."
which implied that all the other groups mentioned in this thread were not actually Irish folk proggers, which the Morrigan and Moving Hearts are, and also that the rest were all British, which CORDE OBLIQUE, OLOFERNE, ALAN STIVELL and others are not.
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