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zravkapt
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Posted: May 28 2015 at 00:09 | ||||
"By the end of the 1990s indie rock developed a number of subgenres and related styles. Following indie pop these included... space rock." |
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Dean
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Posted: May 28 2015 at 01:42 | ||||
Space Rock: "... it was later repurposed to refer to a series of late 1980s British alternative rock bands that drew from earlier influences to create a more ambient but still melodic form of pop music" ...such bands would include Flaming Lips, Spaceman 3, Spiritualized and, to a lesser extent, Mercury Rev.
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thebeastmustdie
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Posted: May 28 2015 at 05:45 | ||||
Interesting how Mercury Rev sound like 2 different bands if you compare their first couple of albums yr self is steam and boces to what they sounded like on deserters songs. almost completely different. I guess flaming lips made a more gradual change into something very different in the end from their early stuff too..not sure I'd call any Lips stuff I've heard 'Space rock' though?
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SteveG
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Posted: May 28 2015 at 15:16 | ||||
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Dean
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Posted: May 28 2015 at 17:59 | ||||
It seems that you perhaps may misunderstand what the word "repurposed" means
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thebeastmustdie
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Posted: May 28 2015 at 18:57 | ||||
yeah nevermind Wikipedia for a moment though, what do you personally think? |
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Dean
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Posted: May 28 2015 at 19:20 | ||||
I recognise that there are two distinct styles of music that were at different times called Space Rock. I do not *think* that the latter Space Rock is directly related to the earlier incarnation. It is more likely that the more recent style evolved out of the 1980s neo-psychedelic shoe-gazing/dream pop scene just as the earlier style evolved out of the 1960s psychedelic rock scene. Given the close relationship between psychedelic rock and space rock this parallel evolution was somewhat inevitable.
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thebeastmustdie
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Posted: May 28 2015 at 19:48 | ||||
fair enough, makes sense. However it's a tag I've not really heard used in relation to more modern (i.e. post 80s) stuff so maybe that's why I'm having a hard time connecting it with some of those bands. In most cases I doubt those bands themselves would actually refer to themselves as makers of 'space rock', could be wrong though
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Dean
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Posted: May 28 2015 at 21:10 | ||||
Back then few bands accepted the tags they were given. Today the trend appears to be a head-long rush to grab every tag going. Google and Mr Page have a lot to answer for.
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Polymorphia
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Posted: May 28 2015 at 23:07 | ||||
On a related note, does everyone really see Cocteau Twins as shoegaze? It's actually only recently that I heard them called that. I had always heard them called dream pop, and thought shoegaze was a heavier variant influenced by noise rock and 80s space rock.
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Dean
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Posted: May 29 2015 at 02:12 | ||||
I agree. (and so does Wikipedia)
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Polymorphia
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Posted: May 29 2015 at 12:38 | ||||
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