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    Posted: July 10 2015 at 03:21
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Martin Lanceot Barre has been cleared by the Crossover team, and quickly added, thanks very much to Gustavo (GKR).
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Originally posted by Evolver Evolver wrote:

Martin Lanceot Barre has been cleared by the Crossover team, and quickly added, thanks very much to Gustavo (GKR).

It was about time!!!Big smileBig smileBig smile

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Thumbs Up have a good night.. and send me a PM when you do a Barre review.
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Points: 1376 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2015 at 21:28
Wonderfull.

I'l never thank enough my friend to showing me this site. LOL
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ahh... as I said.. I do miss a lot hahahha. I'll check them out.

don't worry about the language thing... I'd be willing to bet they are better written than many native speakers... we love to butcher our own languages.  Hell.. you have to be drunk to understand some of my posts LOL

Besides it is like RPI man... the meaning often cuts through the language.. no one is grading you or your english.  One of our most beloved characters of the site's past didn't speak English and used babelfish for his album reviews...  what a character he was LOL

those you had to be drunk to understand... or wanted to get drunk to celebrate a posting of his latest reviews.

Classic they were...
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I did a dozens of reviews already... none of which I'am very proud of... specially for writting in a foreign language, its very dificult. But they were true in heart. haha
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I was never a good reviewer... I never liked them at least.. but I did feel my best, and have been told they were my best in the aftermath of a particularly contentious addition here and I felt like I the albums needed a bit of ... explanation as to why myself and others felt they belonged.

take that approach.. in theory..

let me know when you do one.. I'd like to read it..  I do miss a lot around here for not being online much and often being a serial spammer when I am.
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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:



your best bet.. express the love and touch on the elements that you think 'prog fan' might have of interest.  As far as the rating.. f**k it.. no one cares about that but fanboys..  the value of a review is in the passion, be it love or hate, a reviewer has the album and how they express it.  Interest a reader in wanting to listen to the album.




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hahahha.. oh don't worry...  there are plenty of bad albums here if you enjoy a bit of wit and spit

and who doesn't LOL

your best bet IMO.. express the love and touch on the elements that you think 'prog fan' might have of interest. 

As far as the rating.. f**k it.. no one cares about that but fanboys..  the value of a review is in the words.. the review itself.. the passion, be it love or hate, a reviewer has the album and how they express it.  Interest a reader in wanting to listen to the album.  My cheap advice for the day haha




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Oh boy.Embarrassed

Ok, will do. But I'am too much excited with stuff and always rate thing with a lot of stars. hahah
I couldnt be mean with Martin... Tongue
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well done! Clap

first review is yours.. it is another PA's tradition..
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Points: 1376 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2015 at 19:57
Originally posted by Evolver Evolver wrote:

Martin Lanceot Barre has been cleared by the Crossover team, and quickly added, thanks very much to Gustavo (GKR).


Embarrassed I was just taking a break from work.

Ok, guys! Now I want to see the reviews!
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Martin Lanceot Barre has been cleared by the Crossover team, and quickly added, thanks very much to Gustavo (GKR).
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Right with you, Evolver.
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Listening to "Stage Left" now: I don't know how anyone could not call this a prog album.

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Personally, I find "A Trick Of Memory" to be a qualified crossover prog album. 
 
"Away With Words" is a mostly acoustic album, and would not have convinced me.
 
"Order Of Play", with watered down (to my ears) versions of Tull songs seems borderline.
 
Since "1 prog album" is the perquisite here, my vote is in as "yes"
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Thanks for this complete post. I know him from 70's and I like his style and touch so much but in JT. I listened to SOME of his solo album and buy his last album "Order of Play". This isn't about his career IMO this is about his SOLO albums. Honestly I don't think he released a Prog album and this is my opinion but I'm dont want to fight for "MB's solo albums is Prog or not"! He worked hard in Progressive Rock genre and one of the great musician in this genre history (as you said before) and I respect to him. 
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Points: 1781 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2015 at 06:14
Originally posted by O666 O666 wrote:

Originally posted by GKR GKR wrote:

Originally posted by O666 O666 wrote:

It's not Progressive Rock. I like his touch and Style in JT and I agree he is a great musician BUT I can't found any Prog elements in his solo albums (IMO).


Not even in some moments of "Stage Left" or in the instrumental tracks of "A Trick of Memory"? By the way, check out the last track of the "Away with words", it shows a great progression, good as any Tull track.

1 or 2 track isn't enough for me. For example "Grand Funk Railroad" have a Progressive track called "Railroad" but you can't say they are a Progressive band!!
I stand to my opinion and IMO it's not Progressive Rock as I said before. Thanks. 



I have been a fan of Martin Barre's since 1972; I have all his recordings, including the very hard to find live A Summer Band CD, (only 500 pressed) but this is not indicative of his 5 studio albums. There are not just one or 2 progressive rock tracks on his studio albums; there are lots. All of his tracks can be accessed; see above from previous listers.

His first studio album Trick of Memory (1994) starts off with Bug....this is prog in my estimation...time signature changes galore incorporating both keyboard, guitar interludes. Light and shade, quirky...prog!
Steal from the same album is definitely prog includes Mel Collins from KC on Sax. Then there’s the acoustic Empty Cafe which was played at Tull gigs.

His next studio album The Meeting (1996) has 3 amazing prog pieces Outer Circle, Misere (a part of the Tull set list for a number of years) and Spanner (in my opinion his greatest ever piece of solo work)...all 3 prog IMHO.

By far and away his best studio album is Stage Left (1993), all original compositions and if this isn’t classified as prog, then I know nothing (don’t respond!). Such great diverse playing both acoustic and electric masterpieces on this album. Murphy’s Paw was also part of Tull’s set list and another version of Winter Snowscape made it on Tull’s Christmas album in 2003.

His next album is the all instrumental Away with Words (2013)...there are 21 pieces of music and no less than 10 Tull tracks get an amazing reworking. So by my reckoning there has to be at least 10 prog tracks on this album!

His most recent album Order of Play (2014) comprises 14 tracks, 11 being reworked Tull tracks, all of which are reinvigorated and all done in one take as they would be played in concert.

So of his 5 studio albums there are 74 tracks, 22 (30%) of which are reworked Tull tracks and at least 3 other Barre compositions being performed as part of Tull’s set list. And amongst these 25 tracks are some astonishing compositions and playing by one Martin Lancelot Barre, many of which in my opinion are prog.

Some come on guys get Martin onto PA....crossover please, I reckon prog-related is a gross put down for such a great prog guitarist.
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Points: 4411 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2015 at 05:13
^^^

I'm glad to hear that!!Thumbs Up
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I'm going to present Mr. Barre to the Crossover team.
 
Personally, I'm leaning toward a mild yes vote, but I cannot say what the rest of the team will do.
 
If he does not get accepted, I'll will petition for him as prog related.  I think he deserves as much.
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