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akaBona 
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Posted: July 23 2015 at 18:14 |
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Excellent album. I'm surprised the ratings here a bit low, for me this still sounds very good! 4 stars!
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BarryGlibb
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Posted: July 22 2015 at 23:57 |
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WarChild. Buy the 40th anniversary theatre edition.
It contains a range of music that sees Ian and the boys at their musical peak.
Takes me back to when I was 16...........
Oh my hometown Melbourne is on the front cover.
Too many good memories.
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Posted: July 18 2015 at 23:30 |
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There's something about the sound of WC - it never jumps out and grabs me. The albums passes and I can't recall a highlight though no tracks are all that bad. Maybe it was the format or my love of the edge of the early stuff.....Benefit, to a lesser extent, also has the same feel. It's parts are better than the whole.
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I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there.....
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Posted: July 18 2015 at 02:47 |
 SteveG wrote:
The Dark Elf wrote:
SteveG wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
GKR wrote:
The Chateau D'Isaster Tapes ave absolutely nothing to do with War Child... in concept meanings. I didnt get your point. 
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From what I remember, the D'Istaster thing and the War child (project than the remaining album) are not only consecutive, but linked aren't they? Both from 73 (the latter release in 74)
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Yes, D'Istaster was the ill-fated first try at War Child material that didn't come off well for reasons that are unknown to me. It is considered a work of genius in France. |
The Chateau D'Isaster sessions were the first try of A Passion Play, not War Child. As GKR notes, "Only Solitaire" and "Skating Away" were not released on A Passion Play and so ended up on War Child (although with the Steven Wilson remix of APP, they both appear on their rightful album). Another song from War Child, "Two Fingers" was a rework of a song called "Lick Your Fingers Clean" written during the Aqualung sessions. War Child was released in a rush when the original movie/play concept was abandoned, and thus was very disjointed and incomplete, so various songs from different sessions were thrown together. Tull's next release Minstrel in the Gallery is far better and more consistent.
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Just an over site on my part, guys. I had the bootleg copy of the D'Isaster tapes 25 years ago and I know it contained both ill-fated material from APP and WC. Old age is a bitch, sometimes. |
Same as SteveG, my bad ... but for different reasons: Distaster tracks , like APP's and WC's songs don't tickle my left ball, so the right one won't jiggle/jangle as well.  
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dr prog
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Posted: July 17 2015 at 17:18 |
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RAINBOW BLUES!
Great track. Of the bonus tracks of that era, together with Goog Godmother and Tomorrow was today shows a great Tull.
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Not crazy about tomorrow. I love glory row though. I like tulls use of sax and accordion from 74
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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Posted: July 17 2015 at 17:06 |
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RAINBOW BLUES!
Great track. Of the bonus tracks of that era, together with Goog Godmother and Tomorrow was today shows a great Tull.
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- From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
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dr prog
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Posted: July 17 2015 at 16:52 |
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Some great tracks:
Good godmother
Glory row
Saturation
Warchild
Queen and country
Skating away
Solitaire
Paradise steakhouse
March the mad scientist
Rainbow blues
Edited by dr prog - July 17 2015 at 16:53
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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Posted: July 17 2015 at 13:45 |
The Dark Elf wrote:
SteveG wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
GKR wrote:
The Chateau D'Isaster Tapes ave absolutely nothing to do with War Child... in concept meanings. I didnt get your point.
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From what I remember, the D'Istater thing and the War child (project than the remaining album) are not only consecutive, but linked aren't they? Both from 73 (the latter release in 74)
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Yes, D'Iastater was the ill-fated first try at War Child material that didn't come off well for reasons that are unknown to me. It is considered a work of genius in France. |
The Chateau D'Isaster sessions were the first try of A Passion Play, not War Child. As GKR notes, "Only Solitaire" and "Skating Away" were not released on A Passion Play and so ended up on War Child (although with the Steven Wilson remix of APP, they both appear on their rightful album). Another song from War Child, "Two Fingers" was a rework of a song called "Lick Your Fingers Clean" written during the Aqualung sessions. War Child was released in a rush when the original movie/play concept was abandoned, and thus was very disjointed and incomplete, so various songs from different sessions were thrown together. Tull's next release Minstrel in the Gallery is far better and more consistent.
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Just an over site on my part, guys. I had the bootleg copy of the D'Isaster tapes 25 years ago and I know it contained both ill-fated material from APP and WC. Old age is a bitch, sometimes.
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Posted: July 17 2015 at 11:56 |
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^^ Aye.
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- From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: July 17 2015 at 11:19 |
SteveG wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
GKR wrote:
The Chateau D'Isaster Tapes ave absolutely nothing to do with War Child... in concept meanings. I didnt get your point.
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From what I remember, the D'Istater thing and the War child (project than the remaining album) are not only consecutive, but linked aren't they? Both from 73 (the latter release in 74)
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Yes, D'Iastater was the ill-fated first try at War Child material that didn't come off well for reasons that are unknown to me. It is considered a work of genius in France. |
The Chateau D'Isaster sessions were the first try of A Passion Play, not War Child. As GKR notes, "Only Solitaire" and "Skating Away" were not released on A Passion Play and so ended up on War Child (although with the Steven Wilson remix of APP, they both appear on their rightful album). Another song from War Child, "Two Fingers" was a rework of a song called "Lick Your Fingers Clean" written during the Aqualung sessions. War Child was released in a rush when the original movie/play concept was abandoned, and thus was very disjointed and incomplete, so various songs from different sessions were thrown together. Tull's next release Minstrel in the Gallery is far better and more consistent.
Edited by The Dark Elf - July 17 2015 at 11:20
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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Posted: July 17 2015 at 11:01 |
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Never taken a listen honestly. I was under the impression that it was an album held in bad taste by most people.
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Posted: July 17 2015 at 10:40 |
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NOPE!
Guys, Chateau Disaster tapes became APP! Only two songs were used in War Child (Only Solitaire and Skating Away).
War Child concept may try to get some things of life and death and stuff, but I need to read the movie script Anderson did, I still hasnt bought the 2014 box.
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Posted: July 17 2015 at 10:30 |
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Posted: July 16 2015 at 16:26 |
A very interesting album.....with 2 excellent songs, imho, in Skating Away (one of my all time favorites) and Bungle ...though I have to say I like all the others as well.
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Posted: July 16 2015 at 10:33 |
SteveG wrote:
I was not a big fan of APP  , or this follow up. What's your opinion of JT's War Child from 1974?
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Not really a fan of either anymore. I used to quite like APP, but it has really palled for me in recent times. I like 'Skating Away' but that's about it from WC.
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Posted: July 16 2015 at 10:27 |
GKR wrote:
The Chateau D'Isaster Tapes ave absolutely nothing to do with War Child... in concept meanings. I didnt get your point.
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From what I remember, the D'Istater thing and the War child (project than the remaining album) are not only consecutive, but linked aren't they? Both from 73 (the latter release in 74)
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dr prog
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Posted: July 16 2015 at 06:34 |
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Several gems on both discs. Would have been better if they made a double album or a single album with a movie production. Would have been a different album I think
Edited by dr prog - July 16 2015 at 06:34
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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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GKR
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Posted: July 16 2015 at 05:58 |
The Chateau D'Isaster Tapes ave absolutely nothing to do with War Child... in concept meanings. I didnt get your point.
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- From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
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Sean Trane
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Posted: July 16 2015 at 01:10 |
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Didn't care for the vinyl (got rid of it fairly quickly back then), and I only bought it in CD once the remastered filled with bonus tracks appeared, as I was hoping that the extra-tracks would help me understand what Tull was trying to do with that multimedia project. But this version didn't help either, and TBH, neither did the Chateau D'Isaster Tapes
I kind of wish they'd release whatever film was shot (if any at all) to help understand this project...
alas, just like Townsend/The Who's Lifehouse project of that same year (+/-), it was not to be. However Who's Next is so much better than War Child
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Posted: July 15 2015 at 20:51 |
"The Third Hurrah" was one of my first intros to FM radio and I quite liked it. So I have a soft spot for this album
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