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Joined: April 29 2004
Location: Heart of Europe
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Posted: August 29 2015 at 16:10
Svetonio wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
Svetonio wrote:
SteveG wrote:
^Well, at least the Goths were not involved!
nope, but the Bogomils were probably
Actually, the first "modern" genocide at Balkans was on Bogumils. Serbian medieval king Stefan Nemanja, already Christian, was killed cca 30% ofBogumils, a 30% of them were baptized, 30% were banishedto Bosnia.
Wouldn't that make a concept album story for Arjen Lucassen or Fabio Zuffanti's next album!!
Bogumils were Zoroastrians (something from pre-islamPersia/Iran) before being forced by the Ottomans to convert to Islam or Christiantity
Joined: September 20 2010
Location: Serbia
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Points: 10213
Posted: August 29 2015 at 23:59
Sean Trane wrote:
Svetonio wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
Svetonio wrote:
SteveG wrote:
^Well, at least the Goths were not involved!
nope, but the Bogomils were probably
Actually, the first "modern" genocide at Balkans was on Bogumils. Serbian medieval king Stefan Nemanja, already Christian, was killed cca 30% ofBogumils, a 30% of them were baptized, 30% were banishedto Bosnia.
Wouldn't that make a concept album story for Arjen Lucassen or Fabio Zuffanti's next album!!
Bogumils were Zoroastrians (something from pre-islamPersia/Iran) before being forced by the Ottomans to convert to Islam or Christiantity
The Bogomils were dualists in that they believed the world was created not by the Abrahamic God, but by an evildemiurge—the Devil. They did not use the cross nor build churches, preferring to perform rituals outdoors.
(...) The Bogomils spread westwards and settled inSerbia, where they were to be known asBabuni. At the end of the 12th centurySerbian Grand PrinceStefan Nemanjaand the Serbian council deemed Bogomilism aheresy, and expelled them from the country. Large numbers took refuge inBosniaandDalmatiawhere they were known under the name of Patarenes (Patareni).[6]
Providing refuge to heretics, including bogomils was a recurrent pretext for Hungarian rulers to declare crusades against Bosnia and extend their influence in the region. A first Hungarian complaint to the Pope was averted by the public abjuration of the Bosnian rulerBan Kulinin 1203.[14]A second Hungarian crusade against Bosnia on bogomil heresy pretext was launched in 1225, but failed. In 1254, rebelling against the Papal order to accept a Hungarian bishop, theBosnian Churchchose the schism. In the following centuries, theBosnian Church(autonomous from Rome but mainly following Catholic doctrine) and the heretic sect of the bogomils came to be identified with each other, due to the scarcity of documents after the Ottoman conquest.[15]
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