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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2015 at 03:49
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Now that Phil Collins is un-retiring from music maybe some new combination can be created? TongueEvil SmileClown

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2015 at 04:15
I have never seen Rush live. Cry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2015 at 00:41
And the eternal question: How does he pronounce his last name?   Word was when I was a kid that, although for some reason we all said "Pert", it was actually pronounced "Peert".   But phonetically it could also be "Part" or "Pairt".


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2015 at 10:33
In that quote Neil doesn't say anything different than what's he's been saying for years.  There's been no official statement.  I can see them doing some small tours or residencies and definitely a few new albums (that will be compressed to death).  If they do play live, they really need to address Lee's vocals for his comfort and the fans.  IMHO, of course. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2015 at 11:03
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

And the eternal question: How does he pronounce his last name?   Word was when I was a kid that, although for some reason we all said "Pert", it was actually pronounced "Peert".   But phonetically it could also be "Part" or "Pairt".
 
I believe it is pronounced "Peert." I saw him perform on Letterman many eons ago and that's the pronunciation Letterman used. Wikipedia confirms this: /pɪərt/. Before this, I had pronounced it "Pert."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2015 at 11:07
Oh God, no, it's got like the Moog forum. ;-)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2015 at 11:31
^ It's definitely "Moge" --   I know one of his relatives.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2015 at 02:28
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2015 at 02:28
"it`s written in the stars that this was why Mike Portnoy quoted Dream Theater so he can take up the mantel as Rush's new drummers"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2015 at 03:50
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

He deserves it.   The question is will he miss it and someday return?

Mr. Peart, though a strictly by-the-numbers player who replicated his drumlines verbatim in concert, was an enormous presence for those who were coming of age in the late 70s/early 80s, particularly rock musicians.   Even non-musicians understood his thrilling contributions, and many a pimply-faced drummer swooned over his chops and technical prowess.

this is exactly why Friede and I don't like Neil Peart. his drumming lacks spontaneity, the surprise element. his drumming does not swing


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2015 at 09:25
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

He deserves it.   The question is will he miss it and someday return?

Mr. Peart, though a strictly by-the-numbers player who replicated his drumlines verbatim in concert, was an enormous presence for those who were coming of age in the late 70s/early 80s, particularly rock musicians.   Even non-musicians understood his thrilling contributions, and many a pimply-faced drummer swooned over his chops and technical prowess.

this is exactly why Friede and I don't like Neil Peart. his drumming lacks spontaneity, the surprise element. his drumming does not swing

Agree 100%--especially the swing part but was afraid to say it---try to avoid incoming attacks lol.
I like Rush don't love them---lot's of prog bands a lot more interesting to me---but I thought his retiring 
was a classy thing to do while still on top---unlike one of my fav bands who seem to want to go on no matter how pitiful it all seems.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2015 at 22:17
I haven't really compared the drumming between studio and live songs from them, but just by what I compare by memory, I usually like the live versions better, and perhaps the drumming is too similar between both versions, but still it sounds more... alive on the live renditions, enough to make me apreciate him more live than on studio.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 14 2015 at 07:19
He's very fast, very accurate, creative in use of equipment, but more a technician than a drummer. 

Don't get me wrong, I do rate him - but he's just one of a number of drummers which include Joe Morello, Ginger Baker, Carl Palmer, Corky Laing etc etc, most of which I've been lucky enough to see live. Jazz drummers tend to do it for me, to be honest.

I don't believe in lists or comparatives. I play lots of instruments including very basic percussion stuff (mainly Arabic influenced) - what normally happens is that Magazine X or Website Y say "Well, this person is the best guitarist/drummer/nose flute player in the world" - this is invariably picked up by other, say, non nose flute players.... "Wow, Albert Snoadley is the best nose flute player ever"...... it's not a competition, there's no such thing as "best drummer / guitarist / sackbut player". 

He's a good drummer. There's some things he does which I like, some which I don't. There are other drummers available. Your experience may vary. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 14 2015 at 13:15
He can't do that! They still haven't visited Poland yet! Ouch
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 14 2015 at 16:16
^hard to imagine there is a country, much less in Europe, that Rush hasn't played LOL Granted they are no Iron Maiden (who is) but that is a band that did get around if you know what I mean.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 14 2015 at 22:52
^ Hardest working band in rock for about ten years -

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2015 at 21:10
10 years? Wouldn't it rather be about 40 years?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 25 2015 at 20:33
Phil Collins as the drummer of Rush ? he could do it but I would pity Alex and Geddy  if he did.  Ermm The obvious Guy to replace Peart is Mike Portnoy somebody who has been greatly influenced by Rush for many Decades. I don't care what Portnoy is doing now it cant be as important as Rush ...Make it so  Big smile

I`m a huge Rush fan I really am but this news isnt a shock to me I sort of feel like we have been slave driving Peart and making him do it for us since the mid 90's, its as if hes not getting much out of it anymore and that's self evident in the lyrics since the mid 90's the inspiration just isn't there ...well not for me anyway.  Smile

I`ll sign off on "Counterparts" that's the last CD that I felt the synergy of Rush and truly what Rush represents after that it wasnt enough to win me over though it did win plenty of younger fans , so more younger fans but worse music .. hardly a win.  Tongue


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 25 2015 at 22:22
I somehow don't see Rush continuing with the same name if any of the 3 isn't in. They have been together for so long that it just wouldn't be the same. But if someone were to take Peart's place, I guess indeed Portnoy would be the man.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2015 at 13:11
Blasphemy!! Portnoy in Rush.....NEVER! Geddy has said several times in interview that without these 3 guys there is no Rush. People can do strange things and change minds but Portnoy can be such a dick and douche he does not fit the Rush profile.
I love Portnoy drumming and think he can create and has, great music....
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