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Lewian 
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 Posted: February 06 2016 at 20:24 |
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Oh, and: Art Zoyd?? The only band with five albums on my list... I've seen one further on Nogbad's list but was that all?
I was generally happy about how my favourites were doing, but this...??
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: February 06 2016 at 20:36 |
Hmmm...29 people does not make for a reliable poll, even on a site as incestuously close as PA. 
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: February 06 2016 at 20:36 |
 Lewian wrote:
Oh, and: Art Zoyd?? The only band with five albums on my list... I've seen one further on Nogbad's list but was that all?
I was generally happy about how my favourites were doing, but this...??
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two Art Zoyds made my list but I deliberately tried to limit the number from each band.
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Ian
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Posted: February 06 2016 at 20:37 |
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I think I had at least two Zoyds on my list.
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Magma America Great Make Again
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Kazza3
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Posted: February 06 2016 at 20:55 |
Lewian wrote:
Oh, and: Art Zoyd?? The only band with five albums on my list... I've seen one further on Nogbad's list but was that all?
I was generally happy about how my favourites were doing, but this...??
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Art Zoyd received 12 votes from 6 users- however the votes were split amongst 8 albums.
The Dark Elf wrote:
Hmmm...29 people does not make for a reliable poll, even on a site as incestuously close as PA. |
Oh, absolutely. 50 or so would've been pretty great, but this isn't far behind the kind of numbers they had in 2008 and 2009, so it's not awful.
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Polymorphia
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Posted: February 06 2016 at 22:07 |
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Fixing a Hole? She's Leaving Home? With a Little Help from my Friends? Lovely Rita? Honestly, if these songs were on any other album, would you really ever listen to them?
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Hell yeah.
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Kazza3
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Posted: February 06 2016 at 22:08 |
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RoeDent wrote:
So De-Loused (#21) is the highest-ranked modern album (modern in this case meaning post-1990). Disappointing really considering we are in the Second Golden Age of Prog.
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Disappointing because there are no post-1990 (or post-1981) albums in the top 20? Yeah. It's interesting- one of the general results of this poll in comparison with the earlier ones isn't unexpected- a pretty significant drop in modern metal and heavy stuff, when Dream Theater, Opeth, Tool and Porcupine Tree used to be very strongly represented (In Absentia was in the top 10 in 2008). But it seems with those bands dropping away, they haven't really been replaced by other modern bands, and so the performance of modern bands in these polls has seemingly lessened over time.
Of course I'm just saying all of this based on my impressions, I haven't actually gone through and found the numbers to back me up here.
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Okay, I went and got the numbers, which basically confirm what I thought. Just 16% of the top 100 was released post-1990, compared to 25% in 2009. While a lot of the albums are the same, the emphasis was definitely much heavier on metal in 2009:
2016: 21. The Mars Volta - De-Loused in the Comatorium 26. Radiohead - Kid A 27. Radiohead - OK Computer 43. Steven Wilson - The Raven That Refused To Sing 44. Pain of Salvation - The Perfect Element, Pt 1 54. Kayo Dot - Choirs of the Eye 60. Pain of Salvation - Remedy Lane 61. The Mars Volta - Frances the Mute 64. Porcupine Tree - In Absentia 70. Transatlantic - SMPTe 75. Radiohead - In Rainbows 79. Porcupine Tree - Deadwing 84. maudlin of the Well - Part the Second 87. Porcupine Tree - Fear of a Blank Planet 89. Opeth - Blackwater Park 98. Dream Theater - Images and Words
2009: 20. Dream Theater - Images and Words 24. Dream Theater - Scenes from a Memory 31. Opeth - Blackwater Park 35. Porcupine Tree - In Absentia 36. The Mars Volta - De-Loused in the Comatorium 39. Pain of Salvation - The Perfect Element, Pt 1 41. Radiohead - OK Computer 47. Tool - Lateralus 49. Porcupine Tree - Fear of a Blank Planet 54. Kayo Dot - Choirs of the Eye 55. Porcupine Tree - Stupid Dream 56. Radiohead - Kid A 57. The Mars Volta - Frances the Mute 63. Pain of Salvation - Remedy Lane 64. King Crimson - The Power to Believe 66. Dream Theater - Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 68. Radiohead - In Rainbows 74. Porcupine Tree - Deadwing 79. Dream Theater - Awake 84. Tool - Aenima 86. Anglagard - Hybris 87. Opeth - Ghost Reveries 92. Devin Townsend - Terria 93. Opeth - Watershed 98. Opeth - Still Life |
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Posted: February 06 2016 at 23:12 |
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I think the most interesting thing is that Anglagard's Hybris, which is no. 18 in the top prog list, only made it to 86 on the 2009 list and didn't make the top 100 at all in the 2016 list.
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There is no dark side in the moon, really... Matter of fact, it's all dark...
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sublime220
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Posted: February 06 2016 at 23:12 |
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There is no dark side in the moon, really... Matter of fact, it's all dark...
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sublime220
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Posted: February 06 2016 at 23:14 |
Upbeat Tango Monday wrote:
I love Sgt. Pepper, I think it's a cohesive record. Rubber Soul, Revolver and Magical Mystery Tour are better than Abbey Road as well.
I can't call an album "a masterpiece" if I regularly skip half of it.
The White Album is great, but "Revolution 9" completes it.
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There is no dark side in the moon, really... Matter of fact, it's all dark...
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Lewian
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Posted: February 07 2016 at 17:52 |
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micky
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Posted: February 07 2016 at 17:54 |
I damn sure missed this.. including getting my list in. damnit. Let's see who won. and how many overrated Geneisis albums are at the top! 
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micky
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Posted: February 07 2016 at 17:55 |
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micky
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Posted: February 07 2016 at 18:02 |
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RoeDent wrote:
Interesting that nobody voted the overall #1 as their personal #1. |
Interesting point. Does that make CTTE the least-objectionable prog masterpiece? Because I had five Yes albums on my list ahead of it, yet it made it to a number of lists and notably, to a number of top-ten rankings. Whereas DSOTM wasn't even on my list - it's an album that I couldn't care less if I never hear again, and it appears that other top ten albums arouse mixed feelings - but CTTE everyone seems to like a fair amount, even if it isn't their top pick. I'm still in shock that GFTO was close to 200, yet the other five of Yes' best six run of albums were all ranked 25 or higher. How did that one get left behind? Nice work  on these lists, it was great fun to read them but I expect a whole lot of work to compile them, particularly the final one. Thanks! |
not least objectiionable. It is just one of those albums, like Dark Side in which familiarity.. well doesn't quite breed contempt.. it just breeds ... familiarity. It is such a frickin great album.. after years and years of hearing it you tend, when it comes to doing lists like this, to forget just how great it is. It is probably the single greastest prog album ever made.. but after the shock and awe a listener has at first discovering just how magical prog can be when done to perfection. It sort of wears off a bit... not too much obviously.. but to the point where the gateway drug doesn't quite the same effect. The user has moved on to perhaps less perfect but more ..personally powerful drugs of musical choice. I'd rate about... 100 albums more favorite than CTTE, including TFTO but would be hard pressed to call ANY prog album, or any rock album any more perfect. As far as GFTO? pfff.. Give us Tormato any day.. that album had some life in it man. I always thought GFTO was just a flat album, as close to boring as classic Yes ever got.
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micky
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Posted: February 07 2016 at 18:06 |
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emigre80
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Posted: February 07 2016 at 18:07 |
I actually agree that CTTE is perfect, but I think I listened to it too much back in the day. It doesn't feel as magic as it used to. I think GFTO is terrific, but that's a personal decision and I'm not going to mix it up with you on those grounds alone. My only complaint about it is that Awaken's lyrics are a bit limp. It's a small quibble.
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emigre80
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Posted: February 07 2016 at 18:09 |
Lewian wrote:
The Dark Elf wrote:
Hmmm...29 people does not make for a reliable poll, even on a site as incestuously close as PA. |
29 people are perfectly reliable for us 29. 
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I see a fair amount of consistency over the years, so I'm guessing the 29 people are fairly representative. Maybe the outliers just stayed away.
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micky
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Posted: February 07 2016 at 18:09 |
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micky: AC/DC - Let There Be Rock (#5) |
ahh.. so you did use my half list. Thanks! Sorry I didn't have the time to do a full one, or one more... geared to the site. Excellent work, and I know all too well all the time you spent with it and putting it together. well done! 
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micky
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Posted: February 07 2016 at 18:13 |
emigre80 wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
so happy about TALES FROM TOPOGRAPHIC OCEANS that i'm licking myself |
It's a well-deserved 57 place rise. #1 album EVER for me. |
and the highest ranked Non RPI prog album on my list. Which mean top 5 all time prog album! All hail TFTO!!
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micky
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Posted: February 07 2016 at 18:18 |
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Micky will be glad to see Ys ahead of Mirage |
yeah..but the moment was ruined.. like finding the hot chick you picked up has a dick bigger than yours for seeing the SWilson it did NOT come ahead of. Talk about a cold shower to that instant of joy... there really is no accounting for tastes here.
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