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    Posted: January 31 2016 at 11:45
^ Someone asks to you. What do you tell them or what song/album do you play for them to give them an answer?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2016 at 11:50
Siberian Khatru. Close enough to the mainstream audience without taking away any elements.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2016 at 13:49
As a definition in purest form, I'd say Gentle Giant. They are simply one of the most innovative bands I've ever heard. However, I'd probably introduce someone to it through Rush, Pink Floyd, Yes, Dream Theater, or a band like that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2016 at 13:54
A good introduction is Camel, IMO. Mirage as first choice.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2016 at 14:25

"It's over your head so don't bother."

 
(I work with lots of country music fans, which makes me cranky)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2016 at 14:31
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2016 at 15:38
I'd first ask them what they like and what role music plays in their life. Roughly where they're coming from. Then I see whether I can recommend something that I think could connect (unless they're just happy to try out what I like most).
Certainly they need to know that prog isn't anything uniform and homogeneous that can be understood (and perhaps dismissed) by listening to a single example.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2016 at 16:00
Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

A good introduction is Camel, IMO. Mirage as first choice.

Great choice! Certainly one of the first prog albums I fell in love with and a great representative of the symphonic prog sound.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2016 at 16:16
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2016 at 16:27
"I thought you would never ask..."

Gentle Giant of course! 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2016 at 16:41
I tried to convey the idea of Prog once by doing a YouTube search for Genesis' Musical Box, and then Playing it for them. It probably served as the best explanation I could give in a limited time span.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2016 at 16:42
Originally posted by emigre80 emigre80 wrote:

"It's over your head so don't bother."

 
(I work with lots of country music fans, which makes me cranky)
Your crankiness amuses me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2016 at 16:52
Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

Originally posted by emigre80 emigre80 wrote:

"It's over your head so don't bother."

 
(I work with lots of country music fans, which makes me cranky)
Your crankiness amuses me.
 
I doubt it amuses my co-workers.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2016 at 17:37
Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

I tried to convey the idea of Prog once by doing a YouTube search for Genesis' Musical Box, and then Playing it for them. It probably served as the best explanation I could give in a limited time span.

Interesting that you bring this one up since it partially inspired my starting this topic. I just bought Nursery Cryme today and thought about how "classic prog" it was.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2016 at 19:06
When I try to convey to someone what prog is about through a song/songs I tend to lean on instrumentals. I think people who are not use to more progressive music tend to rely on vocals to get the "sound" of the song. Camel and Rush instrumentals are often chosen by me to show to first timers. The conversations afterwards go one of two ways.

Them : "Hey that song had no lyrics."
Me: "I know, how awesome is that!"

Then this is  more often when the conversation spins out of control with them saying they need some lyrics or somebody singing. A few times people have gotten behind the idea, then I put on some The Inner Mountain Flame or The Grand Wazoo and they bolt for the door.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2016 at 20:40
I describe it as an orchestra with rock musicians.  That's a good definition for a lot of symphonic bands, and although it doesn't really do the question justice, you have to start somewhere.

It's what Kerry Livgren called his music, and I stand by it.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2016 at 21:02
"A genre of music that may or may not contain artists you like depending on your tastes."

I'd ask them what they like and then respond with recommendations.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2016 at 22:16
If you want to show someone what prog is without concern of whether they may like it or not, I would go with the album Close to the Edge. If you want to go carefully so the person won't dismiss prog at first listen, I would have to find out what music he already likes and go from there... though often enough Pink Floyd should end up being the first choice.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2016 at 06:58
I always point out that there's music to dance to, and music to listen to. Prog is something you listen to, and enjoy the experience of analyzing the composition, how the music is orchestrated, how the instruments are played, etc. Few people get into it, but that's ok with me. 
I always suggest they listen to the radio-friendly songs, like "Living in the Past", "From the Biggining", or other songs that were popular or that might fit the profile. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2016 at 07:02
IDK, I always show Esmectatons to anyone who never heard of prog or avantgarde and people get shocked forever.
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