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Kespuzzuo
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Topic: Progressive Rap Posted: October 16 2016 at 20:59 |
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This Clipping song changes the time signature several times
Clipping also released a concept album this year called Splendor & Misery This Captain Murphy song is in 5/4 I recommend trying the experimental hip hop subgenre, that's the closest thing to progressive hip hop. |
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StrUktO
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Posted: October 09 2016 at 12:27 | ||
it turns out we weren't the first at all!
making the point clear that rap and progressive rock are in fact a very logical combination, to anyone with an open mind that is again, any musical style can succesfully be fused with any other, the appreciation of it is a matter of taste Edited by StrUktO - October 09 2016 at 12:29 |
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StrUktO
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Posted: September 22 2016 at 13:21 | ||
Hello dear members of the progarchives forum.
I have been following this discussion with interest, it wasn't the right moment for me to respond to it though, yet.. with certain pride I can safely say that this hybrid of styles is very much possible, simply because in my opinion rapping is just another way of using your voice. I say pride, because me and my fellow musician are soon releasing the first rap/progressive rock record ever to our knowledge. it is a 77 minute science fiction concept album with even an epic spread out over 4 tracks, it is also accompanied by a boardgame. there may still be tresholds despite the chosen style (which is a matter of taste, nothing more or less), for example we are dutch and our album is in that language as well. that all said, the album has not been released yet, that is being worked on ;). there are however already 3 tracks available for listening on our website and soundcloud. http://www.schrootoorlog.nl the website is bilingual, you can switch to english if prefered http://www.soundcloud.com/ontrktdeevolgen please feel free to drop by, listen and read. we are very curious to hear your opinions, because I for one love progressive rock and the directions it may take! [edit:] I got a bit of a scare today as I found out that the mobile version of our website was a complete mess after the bilingual update, it's fixed now. sincere apologies to those trying to reach it using a mobile device. Edited by StrUktO - September 23 2016 at 07:14 |
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LearsFool
Prog Reviewer Joined: November 09 2014 Location: New York Status: Offline Points: 8636 |
Posted: July 15 2016 at 19:31 | ||
^ Aww yeah Fly Lo!
And since I'm here, I might as well get around to posting an experimental hip hop classic, Dalek's debut Negro Necro Nekros. Industrial hop featuring two >10 minute tracks, and samples of sitar, Holst, and "Blue In Green". Sheer brilliance, you'll never look at hip hop the same way ever again after listening to this one. |
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hellogoodbye
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Posted: July 15 2016 at 19:06 | ||
Flying Lotus - Never Catch Me ft. Kendrick Lamar |
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Polymorphia
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Posted: July 14 2016 at 21:59 | ||
Anyway, I couldn't quantify whether there was more or less good rap than other genres, but it seems I hear and hear about cool and interesting hip-hop albums just as much as I do rock albums these days.
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Sheavy
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Posted: July 14 2016 at 17:03 | ||
A lot of Alternative Rap is Progressive, haven't heard any rap artist that I would call truly Prog. Clouddead are probably closest from what I've heard. Edited by Sheavy - July 14 2016 at 17:07 |
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Mascodagama
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Posted: July 14 2016 at 15:08 | ||
But there isn't really any authority on this question that comes with being a musician. Pretty clearly there are other musicians who would disagree, including some with unimpeachable credentials. Edited by Mascodagama - July 14 2016 at 15:09 |
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zravkapt
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Posted: July 12 2016 at 16:04 | ||
Check out this thread: |
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Magma America Great Make Again
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Prog-jester
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Posted: July 12 2016 at 15:49 | ||
Nice to see King Kendrick has been mentioned. Also some rappers sample some prog here and there, check last posts here:
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=101988&PID=5302773 |
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Atavachron
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Posted: July 09 2016 at 18:51 | ||
^ fun clip-- I saw that tour in, err, probably gonna be '92
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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Catcher10
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Posted: July 09 2016 at 12:58 | ||
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hellogoodbye
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Posted: July 09 2016 at 12:46 | ||
Sorry Sean, but the association of the word Intelligent with the name Grand corps malade made me jump up. His music to my ears is as good as the music of a soap opera and the lyrics are terrible : preachy, right thinking, the poetry of a five-year-old child. Recently a french comic dared to criticize the slammer. He's gone to his place and smashed his face. You see, without talent and intolerant. French lyrics are so beautiful and profound. You have no idea. Many lyrics of French songs can be read as poetry, without music. It is not the case of big sick body.
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Sean Trane
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Posted: July 09 2016 at 07:19 | ||
I tend to agree with you, but maybe not with "a lot of good stuff"... Rap fits most of the bad clichés it portrays, and the good stuff is the exception that confirms the rule |
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Davesax1965
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Posted: July 09 2016 at 03:29 | ||
Yes, but that doesn't address the statement that rap is "not music". There is a distinction between "entertainment" and "music" - well, I think so anyway. After playing several instruments for 40 years. ;-) Elsewhere in this thread, Subterranean Homesick Blues gets labelled as "rap". Monstrous. ;-)
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hellogoodbye
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Posted: July 09 2016 at 01:54 | ||
The Sgt Pepper's of rap https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8sQV_IpfsE
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FuntimeBombsquad
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Posted: July 09 2016 at 01:47 | ||
Seven months after starting the Celebrated Torture, Vince and I finally put the finishing touches on it tonight. http://https://soundcloud.com/realbombsquad/sets/the-celebrated-torture More videos coming soon, but you can catch all the current ones on the Vince Bender youtube.
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Pastmaster
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Posted: July 08 2016 at 23:45 | ||
I think it's because rap has been given a bad name with the junk that's played on the radio, including stuff like Pitbull and Chris Brown which is classified as "rap" even though it has nothing to do with rap. You also have people like Kanye West, Lil' Wayne, and others with inflated egos tarnishing it's name. I don't doubt that there is good rap music these days, I'm just more of an old school rap fan. The least old rap I listen to is probably OutKast.
Edited by Pastmaster - September 22 2016 at 21:36 |
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Polymorphia
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Posted: July 08 2016 at 15:53 | ||
I don't even get the "most rap" argument, particularly since it tends to come from people who have heard a minimal amount. There's some bad stuff for sure, but there's a lot of good stuff even now.
Edited by Polymorphia - July 08 2016 at 15:53 |
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dwill123
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Posted: July 08 2016 at 15:36 | ||
Like any musical genre there is good and there is bad. Sadly most rap (since Biggie) is garbage.
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