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Mellowtron 
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 Posted: July 16 2016 at 22:56 |
The most progressive album by King Crimson? From which era/lineup???? I mean, in my opinion, Crimson has always attempted to progress their music, hence with all the different lineups and styles over the decades. While they keep in touch with some of the current music trends (e.g incorporating new wave into Discipline, Beat and Three of a Perfect Pair), the band members put both the current music trends and their own styles to fuel KC's music.
Of course, once Fripp feels that the said lineup cannot do any more music, he disbands the current incarnation of KC and the members fade into various session work for several years. Then Fripp brings a bunch of new musicians together, and the cycle repeats.
I think in the Court of the Crimson King was really progressive for its time, as there was a lot of jazz influences (improv on Moonchild, uptempo jazz groove on 21st Century Schizoid Man, Michael Giles' drumming style, etc) and plenty of classical elements (drawn out song structures similar to classical song structures, the Mellotron 3 violins tape sound to emulate an orchestra, flute parts, etc).
Other contenders for me at least would be the Power to Believe with its weird industrial rock/ metal sounds, Red with its grungy and heavy edginess, and Discipline, an album that showed that prog could adapt to the times once prog's heyday in the 70's was over.
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Posted: July 17 2016 at 06:01 |
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I don't get how Discipline is considered progressive. I mean, it's an okay album, but it's pretty much just a rip-off of Talking Heads. Which makes me rather go listen to Talking Heads. |
If not for Adrian Belew as a common thread...you'd likely never associate them. By then the Heads had moved into Afro-centric rhythms following Byrne's lead and interest. KC took progressive rock into the 80's with a sort of (debatable as the tag is ) 'new wave' vibe which the Talking Heads had long since left sort in their own way haviing gone all out artsy-fartsy at that point, perhaps being far more progressive overall than Crimson was at that point. Discipline gets its high marks for as progressive as it is is mainly relative to what other prog groups were doing at the time.. like dying off or being commercial hit machines... but also in relation to what they had done in the past.
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^^ That plus the complex interlocked guitars that KC used in Discipline which Talking Heads didn't. Well, they sort of did on the track Zebra from Fear of Music but....Fripp played guitar on that track! KC were influenced by Talking Heads for sure on Discipline but it is also not a Talking Heads rip off.
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Posted: July 17 2016 at 06:34 |
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Forget the Heads comparisons, Discipline continues where The League Of Gentlemen left off. Remember, Discipline was the name of a band who changed their name to King Crimson.
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Posted: July 17 2016 at 15:16 |
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Larks Tongue in Aspic. |
Aye.
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Posted: July 18 2016 at 03:57 |
No nods to Lizard? (Perhaps I'm biased as it's one of my faves!  )
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^A few (including me) mentioned it. A very unique sounding album for 1970, they never did anything like it again.
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Posted: July 19 2016 at 07:37 |
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The first album. None of their subsequent albums come close to the first one, and its incredible impact on all of us!
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Posted: July 19 2016 at 07:43 |
moshkito wrote:
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The first album. None of their subsequent albums come close to the first one, and its incredible impact on all of us! |
Words of wisdom. 
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Posted: July 19 2016 at 08:20 |
Barbu wrote:
moshkito wrote:
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The first album. None of their subsequent albums come close to the first one, and its incredible impact on all of us! |
Words of wisdom. |
Yes, obviously. Innovative as KC always is - or was I don't see how anything can compare to their revolutionary debut.
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Posted: July 19 2016 at 09:13 |
Classic Prog - ITCOTCK Broader Definition - LTiA With a modern twist - Discipline Left Field - Thrakkattakk
I feel they stopped reinventing themselves after this, and while I like Thrak and TPTB they didn't change the game the way the others did.
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Posted: July 19 2016 at 10:54 |
Damn near impossible to choose...they are all innovative and KC was always looking to explore new ground. As many have said....the first was revolutionary, so I'll go with ITCOTCK.
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Posted: July 20 2016 at 04:20 |
Mellowtron wrote:
The most progressive album by King Crimson? From which era/lineup???? I mean, in my opinion, Crimson has always attempted to progress their music... |
The question is just for fun, it's not an exam. If it was, these PA members could write a thesis on KC and it's history.
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Posted: July 20 2016 at 05:36 |
The Dark Elf wrote:
Larks Tongue in Aspic. |
I prefer Lark's Vomit in Ram's Bladder Cup
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Mellowtron
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Posted: July 24 2016 at 22:09 |
SteveG wrote:
Mellowtron wrote:
The most progressive album by King Crimson? From which era/lineup???? I mean, in my opinion, Crimson has always attempted to progress their music... |
The question is just for fun, it's not an exam. If it was, these PA members could write a thesis on KC and it's history. |
My bad. I was merely attempting to be somewhat humorous.
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Posted: July 25 2016 at 00:47 |
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I'd say Larks' Tongues in Aspic because not only is it a very "Prog" album, but it was quite the departure from the earlier albums.
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Posted: July 25 2016 at 04:10 |
This is a very wierd question as at least the first 7 albums more or less define what prog is. But seen from a 2016 perspective i guess i'd say equally Larks/Lizard. Both very unique amongst the early prog. masterpieces.
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Posted: July 25 2016 at 15:43 |
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Lark's Tongues in Aspic
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Posted: July 25 2016 at 16:31 |
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Can't say that the idea of quantifying progressiveness resembles how I think about music. <shrugs>
I love King Crimson, though.
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The most progressive album by KC.
