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    Posted: July 30 2016 at 09:38
I think political identifications in most thread posts tend to be misunderstood, or assumed, sometimes. For an example, a member might say that he or she has "far left" friends which could leave some to assume that the member is also "far left" politically. If you care to, please state how you identify politically and if you are politically active.
 
I am a liberal democrat that embraces socialist ideals but not socialism per se. I am not politically active in that I do not attend rallies, fund raisers and other functions. I do, however, vote in all relevant local and national elections.
 
But enough about me, let's here about you. Smile


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I think it would be ideal if all states were abolished and people would live in small self-sustaining communities according to their own rules.

But I also think that wouldn't work in practice because most people are idiots.

I identify as a far-centre armchair anarcho-fascist.
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I have no ideal system. All of them seem to rely on trust. I'm more of a pragmatist. What we've got is what we've got and when problems crop up, it's useless to throw the system away in favor of another. You make adjustments to the system to solve said problems and attempt to make whatever you have fair and equitable. I guess I'm a moderate, but I don't find a lot of moderates with the same ideas. I'm opposite to them on a lot of stances actually. 

I'm not too politically active. I don't like many candidates and I find it hard to talk to a lot of people about politics. My fear of rejection is heightened in an area where rejection happens so often. 


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I am a spooky scary socialist, I tend towards libertarian Marxist views (very basically a rejection of bolsheviki practices/Marxism-Leninism and explicitly reformist social democratic politics). I'm not politically active although I wish I were, there is no way to be active in such a rural place. For now I content myself in reading and learning more about politics, economics, etc. and participating in discussions of such things online.
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I identify myself as a European middle-class neo-Maxist left-winger intelligensia type of guy. I come from an academic family. I believe in the power of unity, love, and people rather than money and politicians.  Furthermore, I collaborate with a Polish social-democratic party Razem, I show up at local meatings, participate in pickets etc. However, I do not agree with everything that modern left-wing postulates and am skeptical towards views on a few cases that most leftists have. I'm a pretty individual person, but I seem to know what's important, so I'll sometimes have to "swallow the pride" and just accept a few disagreements. This is me! No worries, leftists don't bite, I have a few radical right-wing friends.


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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Stalinist Pol-Potist Maoist Free Market Socialist

You joke, but there really are a special few who support the Khmer Rouge.
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Originally posted by aglasshouse aglasshouse wrote:

Libertarian. 

Same.
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Independent

But I thought you were a Marxist... Confused
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I am a political schizophrenic, both liberal and conservative:
1. I'm a gun owner who seeks gun control (let's start by renewing the ban on automatic weapons and requiring registration for weapon purchases at gun shows and private sales).
2. I'm pro-choice and pro-death penalty.
3. I believe in reducing the national debt and having government being fiscally responsible, but doing so with higher taxes and ending corporate subsidies. Let's end the trickle down lie that's been perpetuated since Reagan. When 1% owns the vast majority of wealth and land, there is no real freedom for the rest.
4. Welfare should not be a perpetual benefit for the able-bodied. Switch it to job training, and if you don't go, you don't eat.
5. In relation to #4, give government scholarships to students willing to get STEM degrees.
6. Stop giving aid indiscriminately to countries who spit on the flag.
7. Send condoms and birth control pills to famine areas. Stop making kids while you starve. Or, to paraphrase Sam Kinison, send them Samsonite luggage, because food doesn't grow in the desert.
8. Stop wasting money on the United Nations.
9. I'm pro-police, anti-BLM.
10. Term limits for Congress.
11. Eliminate PACs and corporate political donations (thus eliminating both Koch and Soros). 
12. Cap the amount of campaign contributions at $1000. That's it, that's all you get.
13. And as a true conservative, I believe in conservation. Eliminate the need for fossil fuels. Plant a few trees.

I'll get off my soapbox now.
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I'm an old-fashioned European-style socialist who believes that no one should make a profit off health care, education or any of the basic necessities of life. The luxuries, I don't care about, people can profit off those as much as they like.
 
I believe that those with the crappiest jobs should make the most money, on the grounds that university professors have a pretty good life and sanitation workers should be compensated well for the unpleasant task of making sure we don't drown in our own garbage.
 
I think politicians should make minimum wage so we only get people who really believe in helping others in the job.
 
I believe that none of this will ever happen, but I believe we would all be better off if it did.
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

9. I'm pro-police, anti-BLM.
 
I believe it is possible to support the police but still call them out when they kill people without provocation. 
 
 
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Originally posted by infocat infocat wrote:

Politically frustrated.
Aren't we all?
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Originally posted by emigre80 emigre80 wrote:

I'm an old-fashioned European-style socialist who believes that no one should make a profit off health care, education or any of the basic necessities of life. The luxuries, I don't care about, people can profit off those as much as they like.
 
I believe that those with the crappiest jobs should make the most money, on the grounds that university professors have a pretty good life and sanitation workers should be compensated well for the unpleasant task of making sure we don't drown in our own garbage.
 
I think politicians should make minimum wage so we only get people who really believe in helping others in the job.
 
I believe that none of this will ever happen, but I believe we would all be better off if it did.

As a historian and socialist, what do you think of historical materialism? I have wondered how it is thought of in the modern day and age.
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