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DeadSouls
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Posted: August 23 2016 at 18:36 |
Banco, and then PFM, Storia di un Minuto and Per un Amico, are excellent albums, I never got into L'isola di Niente (Very much a Yes-like album ). Le Orme is the least interesting for me.
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Posted: August 23 2016 at 19:43 |
Although PFM was my first introduction into RPI and led me to more, it is a tie between Banco and Le Orme. Gave the vote to Le Orme because I own more albums by them. Still love all three!
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Posted: August 23 2016 at 21:23 |
Orme
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Posted: August 23 2016 at 21:39 |
Banco, easily, for me. I was actually rather dissapointed by the other two (though I do love Felona & Sorona). Banco may have been a tough nut to crack (at least a little bit), but getting into them they are amazing.
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Posted: August 24 2016 at 02:58 |
I really like all three but I voted for PFM.
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Posted: August 24 2016 at 08:14 |
Banco gets my vote, as they're the ones that are the most complex, experimental and closest to the proper wilder RPI dynamic.
Le Orme would be next and have many strong discs, including later gems like `Florian', `Storia o Leggenda' and even the poppier `Verite Nascoste'.
But I definitely listen to PFM the most of these three!
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ALotOfBottle
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Posted: August 24 2016 at 08:17 |
Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:
Banco gets my vote, as they're the ones that are the most complex, experimental and closest to the proper wilder RPI dynamic.
Le Orme would be next and have many strong discs [...] |
Pretty much what I think. I don't know about Le Orme's later albums, will have to listen. PFM is probably my least listened of the three. But I totally agree with your thoughts on Banco.
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Posted: August 24 2016 at 08:29 |
PFM are perfectly good...well, their initial run of `Storia Di Un Minuto', `Per Un Amico' and `L'Isola Di Niente' are all absolutely superb (as are parts of `Photos of Ghosts', but I tend to dismiss it as being something of a patch-work remix compilation) and classic pure RPI albums, but it's the mid-period bit that begun with `Chocolate Kings' where they started emulating the English bands a bit more (I mean, they even hired a guy to sing in English like damn Peter Gabriel....), and that period of their importance as a proper Italian group kind of ended. The one after, `Jet Lag' is stronger, but more of a kind of jazz-fusion album. Their 80's run is littered with forgettable pop albums, although their comeback discs like `Stati Di Immaginazione' and `A.D 2010' are wonderful!
But at the same time, I think they are hugely important, and the English-language versions of their early albums are probably a terrific way for people to get their `foot in the door' of hopefully eventually exploring proper RPI discs. For many prog listeners, they are among the first Italian prog discs they ever heard! Unfortunately they're a two-edged sword....those English versions are EXACTLY why some people (mistakenly) instantly dismiss RPI as simply being `Symphonic prog sung in Italian', when it is SO much more than that (I could start to rant, but I'm bored typing this already!).
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Posted: August 24 2016 at 08:39 |
Well said Michael
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ALotOfBottle
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Posted: August 24 2016 at 08:42 |
^^Always pleasure reading what you've got to share, Michael. I like their early era a lot. I guess I need to investigate L'Isola Di Niente a bit more, as well as Chocolate Kings and the following. I seem to like Storia di Un Minuto a bit more than Per Un Amico, I feel it has a bit more of a pronounced, original spirit (Per Un Amico being probably more "perfect" and polished). Both albums give an impression of being... carefully crafted and wisely instrumented.
I was thinking of doing another poll for the second-line groups like Osanna or Il Balletto Di Bronzo. Anyway, maybe in a few days when this thread gets quieter.
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Posted: August 24 2016 at 10:37 |
PFM but very close to Banco
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Posted: August 24 2016 at 10:59 |
ALotOfBottle wrote:
Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:
Banco gets my vote, as they're the ones that are the most complex, experimental and closest to the proper wilder RPI dynamic.
Le Orme would be next and have many strong discs [...] |
Pretty much what I think. I don't know about Le Orme's later albums, will have to listen. PFM is probably my least listened of the three. But I totally agree with your thoughts on Banco.
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Le Orme had a pretty impressive run with Il Fiume, Elementi and Infinito in the late 1990s and early 2000s. The sound was there, even if the earlier complexity was not. Some beautiful music with recurring themes, and of course Aldo's voice. The last album or two are without him, and I haven't listened.
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Posted: August 24 2016 at 11:44 |
Yes, I don't have them, but I've heard that trio of Le Orme albums, and they are pretty good. Another comeback one with Jimmy `Metamorfosi' Spitaleri on lead vocals `La Via della Setta' is actually rather excellent, full of wonderfully pompous symphonic Italian prog. But the recent remake of `Felona e Sorona 2016' should be completely avoided. It's pretty much exactly the same as the classic disc and offers very little of interest. Don't make the mistake like I did and buy it!
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Posted: August 24 2016 at 23:25 |
Le Orme for me, with Banco DMS very close behind, then PFM.
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Posted: August 26 2016 at 16:32 |
PFM
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dr prog
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Posted: August 26 2016 at 18:20 |
Le Orme for sure. Better composers. PFM were only strong in 1974 imo. Debut a bit raw, 2nd album is fairly good but a bit overdone. Banco were patchy. Love Io sono and their late 70s though. Le Orme is strong all through the 70s mainly. Probably my 3rd fave band of all time. I prefer Goblin over PFM and Banco
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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Posted: August 26 2016 at 18:28 |
Le Orme, but they're really pretty much all three on the same level for me.
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dr prog
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Posted: August 26 2016 at 18:57 |
Chocolate starfish has very good instrumental passages. But the main compositions for the songs are fairly standard and the singer sounds like a sheep lol
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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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dr prog
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Posted: August 26 2016 at 18:58 |
Excellent album. Even back in 1971 Le Orme's songs stand out compared to Banco and PFM. They just have cooler melodies
Edited by dr prog - August 26 2016 at 19:01
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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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