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Originally posted by Magnum Vaeltaja Magnum Vaeltaja wrote:

I'll be posting some album and artist rankings in the days to come, in case some of you haven't had enough to complain about (*cough* mechanicalflattery *cough*). Wink

I regret nothing. I have been tasked by destiny to right the wrongs lain before us here today. When Tarkus is ranked above Atom Heart Mother Suite, I am there. And when ELP gets ranked in the highest artists, I will be there. And when Red is among the highest albums, I will be there. Just look for my signal in the sky *silhouette appears of vaguely bored, probably virginal millennial* and know that I will be there to fight for the good of us all. 

Besides, at least I don't directly insult the people I disagree with *glares at micky*

And in all seriousness, this has been great fun. I'm never genuinely bothered by other people's opinions, and I'm thankful that you've done this. 

I was wondering if the list would look any different if we were allowed non-prog songs, but I decided probably not, since most of us would have just chosen random non-prog that no one else listened to. At best, maybe some jazz or classic rock would be added to the lower echelons.
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Just letting you know I would gladly read a post with your reasonings behind the hatred (with a too big word, indeed) towards ELP and Red.
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Originally posted by mechanicalflattery mechanicalflattery wrote:

Originally posted by Magnum Vaeltaja Magnum Vaeltaja wrote:

I'll be posting some album and artist rankings in the days to come, in case some of you haven't had enough to complain about (*cough* mechanicalflattery *cough*). Wink

I regret nothing. I have been tasked by destiny to right the wrongs lain before us here today. When Tarkus is ranked above Atom Heart Mother Suite, I am there. And when ELP gets ranked in the highest artists, I will be there. And when Red is among the highest albums, I will be there. Just look for my signal in the sky *silhouette appears of vaguely bored, probably virginal millennial* and know that I will be there to fight for the good of us all. 

Besides, at least I don't directly insult the people I disagree with *glares at micky*

And in all seriousness, this has been great fun. I'm never genuinely bothered by other people's opinions, and I'm thankful that you've done this. 

I was wondering if the list would look any different if we were allowed non-prog songs, but I decided probably not, since most of us would have just chosen random non-prog that no one else listened to. At best, maybe some jazz or classic rock would be added to the lower echelons.

No worries. Handshake 

After all, what fun would this site be if not for the endless complaining and unnecessary elitism? 

That's an interesting thought about if non-prog songs were included. I'm sure that Micky and I would have some Allman Brothers numbers in common, so they might have made it into the top 300. Other than that I can't really think of any non-prog artists that have enough united support among the people who posted lists this time around. 
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I've just edited my original post on page 1 to include the whole top 300, for those of you who don't want to read through 8 pages of scattered entries to browse the whole thing.
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Alright, some bonus stats (the consolation bracket, if you will):

Top artists by number of tracks listed:

Rank Artist Tracks listed
1 Genesis 50
2 King Crimson 41
3 Yes 39
4 Gentle Giant 36
5 Pink Floyd 31
6 Rush 27
7 Camel 27
8 Van der Graaf Generator 26
9 Frank Zappa (incl. Mothers of Invention) 21
10 Jethro Tull 20
11 Kate Bush 18
12 ELP 17
13 PFM 17
14 Can 17
15 Tangerine Dream 16


Edited by Magnum Vaeltaja - September 26 2016 at 21:43
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Top albums (total points):

Rank Artist Album Total Score Relative to PA Top 100 Ranking
1 Genesis Selling England By The Pound 8773.4 +1
2 Yes Close To The Edge 8269.3 -1
3 Genesis Foxtrot 8120.0 +3
4 Genesis Nursery Cryme 5756.3 +8
5 King Crimson In The Court of The Crimson King 5587.3 0
6 Yes The Yes Album 5540.3 +37
7 Van der Graaf Generator Pawn Hearts 5256.3 +7
8 Yes Fragile 5103.5 +3
9 Genesis The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway 4876.8 +33
10 Camel Mirage 4780.1 +6
11 Yes Relayer 4596.6 +11
12 Gentle Giant Octopus 4457.4 +40
13 Yes Tales From Topographic Oceans 4284.4 >100
14 King Crimson Red 4243.2 -6
15 Pink Floyd Meddle 3917.1 +17
16 King Crimson Larks' Tongues In Aspic 3843.8 -3
17 ELP Tarkus 3719.8 >100
18 PFM Per Un Amico 3690.3 -1
19 Genesis A Trick of the Tail 3649.8 +36
20 Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon 3486.6 -13
21 Pink Floyd Animals 3331.0 -12
22 Pink Floyd Atom Heart Mother 3306.8 >100
23 Gentle Giant Acquiring The Taste 3266.1 +48
24 Rush Hemispheres 3247.4 -4
25 ELP Brain Salad Surgery 3209.0 >100
26 Genesis Trespass 3167.6 >100
27 ELP ELP 3119.1 +40
28 Camel Moonmadness 2988.8 -9
29 Supertramp Crime of the Century 2883.2 +5
30 PFM Storia Di Un Minuto 2838.0 -7
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Top albums (average score per track):

Rank Artist Album Points/Track
1 Yes Close To The Edge 2756.4
2 Jethro Tull Thick As A Brick 2203.3
3 Van der Graaf Generator Pawn Hearts 1752.1
4 Yes Relayer 1532.2
5 Genesis Foxtrot 1353.3
6 King Crimson In The Court of The Crimson King 1117.5
7 Genesis Selling England By The Pound 1096.7
8 Yes Tales From Topographic Oceans 1071.1
9 Camel Mirage 956.0
10 Yes The Yes Album 923.4
11 King Crimson Red 848.6
12 Genesis Nursery Cryme 822.3
13 Rush Hemispheres 811.9
14 PFM Per Un Amico 738.1
15 Pink Floyd Animals 666.2
16 Pink Floyd Atom Heart Mother 661.4
17 Pink Floyd Meddle 652.9
18 Bubu Anabelas 642.9
19 ELP Brain Salad Surgery 641.8
20 King Crimson Larks' Tongues In Aspic 640.6
21 ELP Tarkus 620.0
22 Yes Fragile 567.1
23 Gentle Giant Octopus 557.2
24 Genesis Trespass 527.9
25 ELP ELP 519.9
26 Yes Going For The One 519.8
27 Van der Graaf Generator H To He, Who Am The Only One 519.4
28 Van der Graaf Generator Godbluff 503.0
29 PFM L'isola di Niente 501.8
30 PFM Storia Di Un Minuto 473.0
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Top Artists (Total Score):

Rank Artist Total Score
1 Genesis 38875.4
2 Yes 34651.7
3 King Crimson 24630.8
4 Pink Floyd 20446.6
5 Gentle Giant 18865.8
6 VDGG 13859.2
7 Rush 13064.7
8 Camel 12276.2
9 ELP 11823.6
10 PFM 9494.8
11 Jethro Tull 7496.2
12 Supertramp 5079.1
13 Renaissance 4897.5
14 Magma 4622.5
15 Can 4523.5
16 Frank Zappa (incl. Mothers of Invention) 4491.9
17 Focus 4311.1
18 Tangerine Dream 4268.1
19 Caravan 4147.1
20 Marillion 3842.4
21 Kate Bush 3724.1
22 Henry Cow 3692.6
23 Mike Oldfield 3561.6
24 Porcupine Tree 3466.7
25 Traffic 3125.0
26 Radiohead 2934.4
27 Soft Machine 2915.7
28 Gong 2861.1
29 Amon Duul II 2815.0
30 Moody Blues 2810.8
31 Egg 2770.3
32 Steve Hackett 2597.7
33 Return To Forever 2572.5
34 Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso 2519.7
35 Bubu 2491.2
36 Art Zoyd 2470.8
37 Brand X 2364.0
38 Flower Kings 2260.3
39 Klaus Schulze 2198.8
40 David Sylvian 2186.2
41 Peter Gabriel 2161.3
42 IQ 2149.7
43 Phish 2140.4
44 David Bowie 2073.3
45 Kansas 2055.0
46 Battles 2036.9
47 Santana 2025.2
48 Big Big Train 2008.6
49 Cardiacs 1947.2
50 Talk Talk 1929.6

Fun fact: The top 10 artists listed were responsible for 19.6% of all tracks listed and 38.8% of all points assigned!
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Top artists (Average track score):

Rank Artist Score per track
1 Yes 888.5
2 Il Balletto Di Bronzo 799.4
3 Genesis 777.5
4 ELP 695.5
5 Pink Floyd 659.6
6 King Crimson 600.8
7 Mike Oldfield 593.6
8 PFM 558.5
9 Van der Graaf Generator 533.0
10 Gentle Giant 524.1
11 Rush 483.9
12 Moody Blues 468.5
13 Camel 454.7
14 Osanna 433.3
15 Return To Forever 428.8
16 Bubu 415.2
17 Procol Harum 414.4
18 Focus 391.9
19 Supertramp 390.7
20 Robert Wyatt 389.3
21 Jethro Tull 374.8
22 National Health 366.4
23 Soft Machine 364.5
24 Gong 357.6
25 Magma 355.6
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Interesting read.
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Love these! (Not necessarily the results but that you compiled them, thanks!)
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What about by decade? :P
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Red and Nursery Cryme have higher track average scores than Godbluff?! Good to see Harold the motherf***ing Barrel contributes to a higher average than Arrow LOL (Full disclosure: I've always kind of liked Harold the Barrel for no reason that I can discern)

Please lodge this as mechanicalflattery official complaint #381

Also how the heck does Genesis have 50 separate songs that were chosen by people? Trespass through The Lamb is only 50 songs, plus however much Trick of the Tail and Wind and Wuthering have (maybe one or two from And Then There Were Three). Surely no one's voting for Harlequin or More Fool Me or Time Table or half of The Lamb (I did place the sole vote for The Waiting Room), so...

There's #382


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Ha! Henry Cow on #22! That's good, isn't it?
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Much thanks to Magnum Vaeltaja for all the work putting these lists together! Clap

Do it again next year perhaps?  Now that its started, it will give time for participants to make some thoughtful changes/additions to their lists, and hopefully get some more participants. 

In the month since making my list, I've already though of several modifications/additions esp. some bands/tracks that I haven't had enough time to really absorb yet, but that I sense really oughta be on there (including tracks from: Yezda Urfa; Steven Wilson--Hand Cannot Erase; David Axelrod; Andre Fertier's Clivage; Bachdenkel; The Mars Volta--Frances The Mute; Anglagard--Viljans Oga; Triumvirat; Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso--Darwin!; Area--Arbeit Macht Frei; Eros, Dun; Amon Duul; Kayo Dot; Arthur Brown's Kingdom Come; as well as more tracks from the well-known bands already on the list). 

 Rush seems to have been the only well represented 'Heavy Prog' band. Other bands like Opeth, Dream Theater, and The Mars Volta are spottily scattered through some peoples' lists, but not well represented overall. It would be nice if at least a couple of prog metal-heads would participate to to represent heavy and Metal prog a little better!





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yeah man... great job putting this together.  I know just how much work that is. Same you didn't get more participation.. though the results at the top surely would have been the same. What was interesting were the choices outside the 'usual suspects'. Nice to see some actually like prog rock that doesn't put you to sleep or bore one senseless hahaha
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Originally posted by zwordser zwordser wrote:


Do it again next year perhaps? 





stay tuned for the 3rd installment of my little bundles of joys unleashed upon the forum. The PA's battle of the songs sponsored by whatever porn site pays me the most... I dropped Viagra after they gave me teh shaft after the Battle of the Albums contest.

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We had studio albums and songs. What's missing is a poll of live albums. Unfortunately this is not to say that I'd volunteer for running it (but certainly I'd take part)... just saying... time and again I come across prog bands of which I really love a live album most, but they never count here.


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yeah live albums are the ... ummmm.. .red headed stepchildren of PA's contests aren't they...LOL

ELP would dominate that though... or would on any normal prog forum not infested with fans of limp dick prog... they probably did have the two greatest live prog albums.. not surprisingly since they were considered one of the best live acts in rock.. bar none.. of the 70's.. interesting topic or contest there to be had.
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