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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2016 at 03:24
So we've established for certain now that the 70s bands will never be topped on an all-time list. What would be interesting now is if we did a list like this, but for prog since 1990. The upper echelons of this list is understandably loaded with 1GA bands. What is the best of the 2nd Golden Age though?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2016 at 10:44
nice try with this list however, no Prog-Rock best list is complete without Y.U. and H.T.M.!Dead
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2016 at 10:50
Thank you for compiling this list monsieur Magnum.
Lists are to music fans what bark is to beavers.
Would've been cool if the rankings were backwards. I kinda like the bottom half more

Edited by Guldbamsen - September 28 2016 at 10:52
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2016 at 10:50
Originally posted by Mr Smith Mr Smith wrote:

nice try with this list however, no Prog-Rock best list is complete without Y.U. and H.T.M.!Dead


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No clue what those stand for.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2016 at 10:52
Yezda Urfa and Happy The Man perchance?
Took a little headscratching though...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2016 at 10:57
Originally posted by Mr Smith Mr Smith wrote:

nice try with this list however, no Prog-Rock best list is complete without Y.U. and H.T.M.!Dead

I just mentioned yesterday wanting to include Y.U. on my future list. Agreed!, they're an amazing band and should be included! Just not as well known.

H.T.M,  mm, I'm not so sure, but definitely worth more listens.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2016 at 11:07
Y.U.=Yezda Urfa
H.T.M.=Happy The Man
 
this list is a joke without them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2016 at 11:14
If you didn't participate in the list making then you don't get to complain. This was open for everyone you know. You could just have made your own with loads of Yezda and Happy ze Man
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2016 at 11:15
H.T.M. might just be better than Y.U.! (as hard as that might be to grasp)
 
furthermore, neither of these two bands have ever recorded anything sub par, filler or half assed like a lot of the bands mentioned on this "List"
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2016 at 11:25
Welcome aboard, always nice to welcome a newbie pissing vinegar.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2016 at 11:36
Originally posted by Mr Smith Mr Smith wrote:

Y.U.=Yezda Urfa
H.T.M.=Happy The Man
 
this list is a joke without them.


I can think of a thousand ways a "top prog" list could be a 'joke'.

 Not having two bands on the list that (probably) most users haven't heard (or even heard of) isn't one of them.






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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 28 2016 at 12:54
Originally posted by Mr Smith Mr Smith wrote:

H.T.M. might just be better than Y.U.! (as hard as that might be to grasp)
 
furthermore, neither of these two bands have ever recorded anything sub par, filler or half assed like a lot of the bands mentioned on this "List"

Whether a group has recorded poor material is irrelevant. A group can make a good song and follow it with a bad song, and the good song remains listenable in and of itself. In a comparison of songs, whether the group that recorded the song is typically good couldn't matter less. Personally, I don't really like The Doors, and think they made some rather uninteresting material, but they've also released two of my favorite songs (The End and When The Music's Over). 

Also a list is just a series of items, possibly ranked. A "list" does not become less of a "list" because it is wrong, and I seriously doubt anyone would agree with every single ranking, which is why the exercise is itself interesting. 

That Yezda Urfa is even known at all, given its obscurity, is a testament to the power of the internet and especially Progarchives that material forgotten in its time can be resurfaced and reevaluated. That process takes time. Yezda Urfa is simply not a commonly known name. Sorry. Some of my favorite older albums are ignored to the point that they've never been re released on CD. People don't agree. Too bad.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2016 at 08:52
Originally posted by RoeDent RoeDent wrote:

So we've established for certain now that the 70s bands will never be topped on an all-time list. What would be interesting now is if we did a list like this, but for prog since 1990. The upper echelons of this list is understandably loaded with 1GA bands. What is the best of the 2nd Golden Age though?

As a big advocate for the "2nd Golden Age" I'm all for this! If I had the time, I'd even help. (I love lists and list making!)

Great--no AMAZING job Magnum! And thanks for the bonus stats!

As for "non-prog" bands that might have some power behind them were the polls open to all music:  The Cure, Art of Noise, The Clash, The Stones, The Beatles, Bruce Cockburn, Jane Siberry, Cocteau Twins, The Police, Gershwin, Sinatra, Elvis, Billy Holiday, W. A. Mozart, L v Beethoven, Brahms, Vivaldi, R V Williams, and a whole mess of Christmas carols might carry some weight in the voting!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2016 at 09:00
Great work, but...
Supper's Ready, Echoes, Close To The Edge, The Gates Of Delirium, Tarkus, Atom Heart Mother, Karn Evil 9, Thick As A Brick, A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers etc. etc.

These are not songs, but musical suites!!!
It's different, very different!




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2016 at 09:05
^We've already covered that
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2016 at 10:45
I love lists. Lets see.......Genesis, Pink floyd, yes, oh and some king crimson and happy the man.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2016 at 12:44
Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

I love lists. Lets see.......Genesis, Pink floyd, yes, oh and some king crimson and happy the man.

Who's "oh"??Embarrassed
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2016 at 13:42
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2016 at 22:24
Great for doing this list Magnum V.!  Clap Thumbs Up I enjoyed reading it.
Sorry I did not notice it before, because I was travelling a lot during the summer months.
If such a list-making happens any time again, I will try to find time to contribute!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2016 at 05:05
Clap nicely done Kevin.

One curious statistic (if you like this kind of thing) is that even though the sample-size is statistically still fairly low the scores approximates to a power-series trend:

...which is exactly the same trend profile you would see if you plotted the sales vs. chart position of the Billboard album and singles charts, Bandcamp sales charts or even in the PA Top 100 charts. 

In the PA Top 100 this is true for the Average rating, the QWR rating and even the number of ratings scored for each album (thou' the last one may not look like a power-series at first glance but it is if you look at the trendline):



So while some may not agree with specific placements or choices, and from the wobbliness of the actual score lines in relation to the calculated trendline there is fair degree leeway at play here, the stats suggest that each track or album's chart position is more or less in the right ball-park.
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