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Magnum Vaeltaja
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Posted: September 02 2016 at 09:21 |
mechanicalflattery wrote:
Anyway, no immediate objections to the latest update, mostly understandable if not agreeable choices. I'm quite surprised at how high Prelude: Song of the Gulls is. Fine song I suppose, but not even one of KC's best, much less deserving to be just outside the top 100. Ah well, it's all random votes compiled together anyway. I'm pretty sure Herbie Hancock's Sleeping Giant has to have made the top 100, so that's good. |
The reason Song of The Gulls is as high as it is is because two of us had it in their top 10, myself being one of them. I couldn't bring myself not to include it right alongside Islands, which is one of my favourite songs of all time, since the two work so well together as a compact unit. On its own I probably would have ranked it around 50 or 60.
Also, I should be getting started with posting the top 100 in the next couple of days.
Edited by Magnum Vaeltaja - September 02 2016 at 09:23
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Blinkyjoh
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Posted: September 02 2016 at 09:32 |
Magnum Vaeltaja wrote:
.. Check out any of their three albums ... Storia Di Un Minuto is the most romantic, Per Un Amico is the most refined and L'isola Di Niente is oddly Yes-like. All three are excellent, though! |
thanks! seeing they were an italian band, i think i sorta linked them in my head to opera. definitely will reach for that pebble and check them out! :)
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mechanicalflattery
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Posted: September 02 2016 at 09:51 |
Lewian wrote:
mechanicalflattery wrote:
Lewian wrote:
Can the Camel fans please explain to me how on earth Slow Yourself Down can be ranked higher than Ice, Chord Change or Song Within a Song??
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Song Within a Song was pretty high on my list, and I forgot Chord Change, but Slow Yourself Down is great. The vocals at the beginning are a bit... quiet, but the song overall is intense, complex, and rocks harder than prog has any right to. I've listened to it a disturbing amount of times (still not as much as Song Within a Song, probably the one song I've heard the most). |
Actually I admit it takes off quite nicely in the second half, although I find the songwriting and singing in the first half rather lame... anyway at the end of the day it of course boils down to taste but still I'm curious what motivates such to me totally counterintuitive ranking decisions.
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Decisions made by a collective vote are never rational *gestures to entire world as example*
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BunBun
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Posted: September 02 2016 at 15:51 |
Blinkyjoh wrote:
i'm noticing a LOT of PFM listed...I've never even heard of them before this site (but i'll be checking them out). Are they that loved here, or is just happenstance that a lot of PFM fans found this poll?
i don't think i've ever gotten around to trying camel either. just too much music!
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I never herad of PFM before this sight either. Acutally, just about all the music I listen to I only discovered because of this site . Anyways, PFM is the best. THey are only second to Genesis when it comes to my favorite bands. Their second album 'Per Un Amico' is heavenly, in my top three fav. albums of all time. Please, do give them a listen. And come on, give Camel a listen to. Sounds like you are in for a treat.
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BunBun
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Posted: September 02 2016 at 15:54 |
mechanicalflattery wrote:
Uh oh, The Battle of Epping Forest is higher than Animale Senza Respiro. Everybody take cover...
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All I can say is, I'm sorry... I love Battle of Epping Forest, I assumed others loved it too until I started reading reviews of SEBTP lol Clearly some people don't appreciate as much as me.
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Magnum Vaeltaja
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Posted: September 04 2016 at 23:32 |
Now, the TOP 100
100. Franco Battiatio - Sulle Corde Di Aries - Sequenze e Frequenze
789.3 points Appears 3 times Mean rank: 66 Ranked highest by
Micky (#1)
“The album begins with the track that I absolutely
grabbed me hard and just wouldn't let go...I found it incredibly intoxicating
and hypnotic. I love listening to this song. Like a lot of [Battiato’s] music..
not the stuff you listen to when getting revved up for a hot date.. but when
you are curled up with a good book on a rainy day.” – Micky (#1)
99. Gentle Giant - Acquiring The Taste - Wreck
791.1 points Appears 3 times Mean rank: 45 Ranked highest by aglasshouse
(#27)
"Off of Acquiring The Taste, "Wreck" is the absolute
highlight - an unlikely title to be given to what is, at heart, a rocked-out
sea shanty. The concept is weird, but believe me, it works so, so well." -
Magnum Vaeltaja (#59)
98. Pink Floyd - Animals - Sheep
796.9 points Appears 3 times Mean
rank: 45 Ranked highest by BrufordFreak
(#28)
"My favorite track is the last epic: 'Sheep', when compared to
'Dogs', is equally brilliant in terms of arranging and performing, but superior
in terms of power and musical magic. The interplay among all four Floyd members
is the most cohesive in the album, and the diverse successive sections
constitute a fluid amalgam right up until the climatic closing motif goes
fading out among the noises of sheep bleating." - Cesar Inca
97. Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway - In The Cage
802.2 points Appears 4 times Mean rank: 111 Ranked highest by DDPascalDD (#37)
"What to say? No doubt the most widely-favoured track of [The
Lamb], with a moving bass-and-vocals opening, leading to a driving, powerful
keyboard riff, with good lyrics, occasional changes in mood to heavier or more
serious-sounding sections, and then to lighter, more frivolous sections and
back again. A very strong song, and vital for those who consider Banks' solos
and Gabriel's voice the highlights of Genesis." - TGM: Orb
96. Gong - Camembert Electrique - You Can't Kill Me
808.1 points Appears 3 times Mean rank: 43 Ranked highest by ALotOfBottle (#13)
"[Camembert Electrique] opens with odd high-pitched voices and
electronic effects of "Radio Gnome Prediction", which quickly
dissolve into "You Can't Kill Me". The piece basically sets the mood
for the rest of the album with its cosmic jazz-rock theme. One of the
highlights of the track is the way Daevid Allen's singing matches the phrasing
of his guitar and Didier Malherbe's saxophone parts on odd rhythm
patterns." - ALotOfBottle (#13)
95. Gentle Giant - Octopus - The Boys In The Band
814.4 points Appears 3 times Mean rank: 45 Ranked
highest by aglasshouse (#10)
"Beginning with the sound of a coin spinning, [Boys In The Band] is
not only one of Gentle Giant's best instrumentals, it's one of my favorite
instrumentals. It's rampant and yet tightly orchestrated, like a runaway train
on the set of a Jerry Bruckheimer movie. In less than five minutes, Gentle
Giant demonstrates their insane ability to work together as a group and yet
produce the most disparate sounds ever heard in one piece." – Epignosis
94. Genesis - A Trick of The Tail - Los Endos
816.7 points Appears 3 times Mean rank: 49 Ranked
highest by Blinkyjoh (#4)
"Los Endos - an excellent prog instrumental to end this album.
Possibly another "trick of the tail", which if you were to think of
this song as the tail of the album, it might trick you into thinking that
Genesis were a progressive jazz band. The song does replay some of the themes
encountered along the way throughout the album." - rushfan4
93. Yes - The Yes Album - Perpetual Change
826.0 points Appears 3 times Mean rank: 39 Ranked highest by Magnum Vaeltaja (#20)
"One last monster, the surprisingly underrated 'Perpetual
Change'...this is the fourth slab of symphonic greatness on this indispensable
album. 'You'll see perpetual change!' ANDERSON roars. And we did, we did, for
album after stunning album. Again, the interplay of the rhythm section is
astonishing - what about that amazing piece at the five minute mark? how on
earth did they think of that? - and the song is drawn to an exciting climax."
- russellk
92. Il Balletto di Bronzo - Ys - Epilogo
836.0 points Appears 3 times Mean rank: 38 Ranked highest by Micky (#13)
"Epilogo. It's easy to feel that the whole album has been leading
up to this. The speedy, rollicking piano/organ and powerful drum salutations
oozes of conclusion. But you'll have to wait for another eleven minutes to finally
sit back and catch your breath. After some jumpy, confused instrumental
dialogue it's a dive right into ELP territory...Psychedelic swirls and whirls
shrouds it all in a bigger and bigger mystery as the volume increases, again
with a feeling of conclusion. But it settles down again, becoming more and more
stripped of any discernible musical life force, leaving room for echoing
spaced-out tranquillity - and then, slashing through the apathy - back to a
reprise of the tracks beginning, but with a menacing addition to it at the
ending, with the now nothing but scary female voices drifting away into
silence. They're twisted, cruel and unavoidable." - LinusW
91. Focus - Hamburger Concerto - Hamburger Concerto
840.5 points Appears 3 times Mean rank: 36 Ranked highest by someone_else (#22)
"At first I tried to
listen to the huge "Hamburger Concerto" track by parts just to try to
get a glance from it, but that was not enough to get a good idea. You really
have to put the song and listen from beginning to the end. And, oh my god, only
for the last 3 minutes of this track I could die while listening... The end of “Hamburger
Concerto” is simply the best musical climax ever achieved in music yet."
-belz
Edited by Magnum Vaeltaja - September 04 2016 at 23:34
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ALotOfBottle
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Posted: September 05 2016 at 07:59 |
^Yay! "You Can't Kill me" made it! Thanks a ton for the quote, Kevin!
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Categories strain, crack and sometimes break, under their burden - step out of the space provided.
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mechanicalflattery
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Posted: September 05 2016 at 08:17 |
No objections to the top 100 so far, out of these, Sequenze E Frequenze is probably my favorite, and In the Cage my least favorite. Interesting to note that In the Cage got more votes, but most of them were relatively low. Clear advantage gained from basically every person on this website having listened to certain songs, whereas other great stuff is simply not listened to.
Not normally a Gong fan, but I should go listen to You Can't Kill Me. Just in case
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Magnum Vaeltaja
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Posted: September 05 2016 at 22:47 |
90. Soft Machine - Third - Moon In June
840.5 points Appears 3 times Mean rank: 39 Ranked highest by ALotOfBottle (#8)
"The Robert Wyatt penned "Moon in June" actually defines
the Canterbury sound alone, being both charming and challenging on the
ear...Definitely a standout." - Bj-1
89. Gentle Giant - The Power and The Glory - Playing The Game
843.9 points Appears 4 times Mean rank: 80 Ranked highest by Zravkapt (#35)
"From start to finish, [Playing The Game] does it for me. From the
insistent synth bass line, to the catchy melodies, to the terrific Hammond
organ riffs, to the breezy, blinkered bravado of the lyrics, this is
outstanding stuff. Lead vocalist Derek Shulman, in the role of the album's
politico protagonist, likens politics to chess, claiming the part of
"king," and pompously declares that "the other pieces are there
for my art and my tactics now.... I'll play the game, and never ever
lose." A multi-faceted, joyous pure prog track, this is the essence of
Gentle Giant -- if you don't "get" this one, you just don't like the
band!" – Peter
88. Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon - Us And Them
850.4 points Appears 3 times Mean rank: 34 Ranked highest by TheLionOfPrague
(#17)
"Us and Them changed my
life when it opened my smoke-filled eyes to the possibilities in the world
around me more than thirty years ago. Is this an anti-war song, or something
more? Yes and no, of course; it’s what you make of it, as is the rest of the
album." – ClemofNazareth
87. Camel - Mirage - Freefall
853.3 points Appears 3 times Mean rank: 38 Ranked highest by ALotOfBottle (#6)
"Freefall. The fact that this killer single was never introduced to
me by classic rock stations only serves to further lower their usefulness in my
mind. It's a shame, because hearing just this song earlier in life would have
turned me into a Camel fan years earlier. Better late than never, I suppose.
Latimer turns in a nice groove on guitar, and Ward SMOKES on the drums." –
Flucktrot
86. Focus - Moving Waves - Eruption
859.0 points Appears 3 times Mean rank: 36 Ranked highest by A_Flower (#8)
"It's almost an impossible task to analyze this song part by part,
because there are so many changes that go from the baroque introduction by
Thijs Van Leer's keyboards, jazzy passages and psychedelic sections to
progressive and even semi hard rock parts. Maybe the most important and unusual
characteristic of this long track is that even when the changes are really dramatic,
they manage to maintain the soft atmosphere across the heaviest parts.
Definitely an underrated epic, almost never mentioned in progressive polls, but
which deserves much more recognition, 23.04 minutes of pure progressive rock in
the unique style of Focus." - Ivan_Melgar_M
85. Rush - Caress of Steel - The Necromancer
861.4 points Appears 4 times Mean rank: 91 Ranked highest by
Micky/slipperman7 (#22)
"Rush's vision of high fantasy is Tolkien-inspired to the point of
feeling like a cheap knock-off (in a sense, they paved the way for generations
of power metal bands) but it doesn't matter. Regardless whether the content
isn't original, Rush make you believe in it. The gloomy psychedelic distortions
in "The Necromancer" paint a grim picture of a wasteland where
nothing grows." - Conor Fynes
84. Camel - Mirage - Earthrise
869.0 points Appears 4 times Mean rank: 78 Ranked highest by Magnum Vaeltaja
(#34)
"Earthrise starts out at a mild pace before deciding that they need
to do something drastic. So, like Michael Myers of Halloween finding a big
knife of some kind, they come after you at full force with amazing guitar solos
throughout the song, which only slow off to allow for luscious keyboards which
come in here and again. It bookends with another calmer part at the end of the
tune and then it's all over, leaving you wanting more." - Queen By-Tor
83. Camel - Camel - Never Let Go
872.4 points Appears 3 times Mean rank: 30 Ranked highest by Lewian (#9)
"Never Let Go is a Camel classic, full of every element that make
Camel such a pleasure to listen to; the rich 6th-laden harmonies, flowing
melodies and slightly funky bass and drums. Bardens really works it with
Latimer's flute in the middle section to provide some beautiful, timeless prog.
While Bardens might not have had the most notable voice in prog, it fits well
here, the lyrics patch in well, and Latimer really lets fly with some classic
air-guitar worthy soloing in the burn-out." - Certif1ed
82. Yes - Drama - Machine Messiah
874.3 points Appears 3 times Mean rank: 30 Ranked highest by aglasshouse (#17)
"The fun begins with 'Machine Messiah', a BUGGLES composition given
the STEVE HOWE treatment. An appropriate mechanical rumble fades in, heralding
a splendid riff. Yes, we get to hear this riff a lot in this epic track, but
they do use it well. HOWE surrounds the riff with squeals, slides and snarls,
hovering on the edge of discord, the sound echoing the lyrics in true epic
style. WHITE thumps the tubs with more vigour than at any point in his YES
career, and then it's vocals time...Nothing ANDERSON could have supplied would
have had the compelling intensity of this material. A great finish rounds off
this essential track." - russellk
81. Neu! – Neu! - Negativland
876.8 points Appears 3 times Mean rank: 30 Ranked highest by Guldbamsen (#15)
"Negativland is probably the most intense track [on
"Neu!"]. The track, which to me reminds of 80's King Crimson in many
ways (though of course this was recorded ten years before that). The drilling
sounds lead into an absolutely mind blowing guitar by Rother, and the bass line
just thumps and gives the whole track this "umph" that makes the it
so intense." - frippism
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micky
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Posted: September 06 2016 at 05:36 |
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mechanicalflattery
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Posted: September 06 2016 at 05:54 |
Never Let Go and Freefall are both overblown, I've never understood why they get so much attention. Good on Negativland being so high, surprised someone else rated it higher. Comparing Neu! to King Crimson is somewhat odd, their influence and style go so much farther beyond that. The narration on Necromancer is ridiculous, nice music though. Haven't heard Drama, the rest are acceptable for the list.
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micky
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Posted: September 06 2016 at 06:43 |
as I often say of the Necromancer... the key to its greatness is its ridiculousness.
D&D prog.... learn it.. love it.... live it.
Definitely check out Drama. It rules...
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mechanicalflattery
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Posted: September 06 2016 at 07:16 |
I listened to Machine Messiah (pretty good) and The Necromancer (it's growing on me). Now I'm just struggling to comprehend Never Let Go being higher than Moon in June. Absolutely incomprehensible...
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Blinkyjoh
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Posted: September 06 2016 at 07:24 |
Is it too late to make changes to my list? :)
Wow. Going extra mile with top 100. Gw!
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micky
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Posted: September 06 2016 at 07:24 |
oh you'll learn.... there is no rhyme or reason to things like this. It isn't quality but popularity. Prog fan is as guilty of riding the bandwagons and liking genric plastic music as much as the much derided pop fan. This is the only place in the universe where f**king Camel would win a poll over ELP. Not once but TWICE! Well.. unless there is a niche forum for deaf music fans somewhere out there hahah. You just shake your head and enjoy the show...
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Posted: September 06 2016 at 07:27 |
mechanicalflattery wrote:
Now I'm just struggling to comprehend Never Let Go being higher than Moon in June. |
Simple. On PA, Camel are much, much, much, much more popular than Soft Machine.
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mechanicalflattery
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Posted: September 06 2016 at 07:29 |
micky wrote:
oh you'll learn.... there is no rhyme or reason to things like this. It isn't quality but popularity. Prog fan is as guilty of riding the bandwagons and liking genric plastic music as much as the much derided pop fan.
This is the only place in the universe where f**king Camel would win a poll over ELP. Not once but TWICE! Well.. unless there is a niche forum for deaf music fans somewhere out there hahah.
You just shake your head and enjoy the show...
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To be clear, I'm a fan of Camel, and I pretty much don't like ELP at all.
Technically, I'm hard of hearing (no joke) but deaf is close enough
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micky
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Posted: September 06 2016 at 07:32 |
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BunBun
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Posted: September 06 2016 at 09:56 |
loving the list so far. Can't wait to see the rest of it
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micky
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Posted: September 06 2016 at 10:30 |
yeah.. who hoo... can't wait to see if it is 5 or 6 Genesis songs in the top 10! yeah.. can't wait!
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