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    Posted: September 06 2016 at 04:04
Instant millisecond communication between people half a world away, and information retrievable in almost less time. But is our world better off because of the Worldwide Web?

Edited by SteveG - September 06 2016 at 04:45
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2016 at 04:26
Not for me, miss the pre-internet days. Could be a great tool though but way too intrusive overall.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2016 at 05:43
pfff.. what kind of question is that.

1. instant access to any flavor porn you like...
2. destruction of the music industry as we once knew it
3. zero excuse for being ignorant or uninformed
4. instant access to music
5. internet shopping!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2016 at 06:26
LOL

my turn:
1. Everything follows the maxim of Garbage In - Garbage Out
2. The general rule of the Internet is "there can only be one"
3. Everyone is a lot braver on the Internet than in real life.
4. Opinions are like arseholes - everyone has one.
5. The Internet makes everyone parochial and insular.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2016 at 06:35
"If you ever get mad at the internet, just remember it'd be f***ing tiny if only smart people
were allowed to use it."
                                     -- Drew, creator of Toothpaste For Dinner and Married To the Sea


"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2016 at 07:01
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

LOL

my turn:
1. Everything follows the maxim of Garbage In - Garbage Out
2. The general rule of the Internet is "there can only be one"
3. Everyone is a lot braver on the Internet than in real life.
4. Opinions are like arseholes - everyone has one.
5. The Internet makes everyone parochial and insular.




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I need to amend my list.

1.  Pure entertainment....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2016 at 07:10
Yes! ProgArchives! Duh. I'd still be listening to Wayne Newton and Slim Whitman without it Shocked
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2016 at 07:13
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Yes! ProgArchives! Duh. I'd still be listening to Wayne Newton and Slim Whitman without it Shocked


yeah... if not for Progarchives I'd likely still be dodging pots and pans thrown by the spawn of Satan to the soundtrack of her Celine Dion albums. The only escape would have been a bullet to the brain..

hell? you all have no concept of what hell on earth is LOL And Progarchives and the internet saved me...Beer


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2016 at 08:05
I manage to live with it but ... boy, do I miss the ancient culture of ignorance and isolation of my younger age Big smile


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2016 at 08:26
ummm...pictures of cats riding tacos shooting lasers? Is this really a question that needs asking?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2016 at 09:05
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:


I need to amend my list.

1.  Pure entertainment....
Presactly ... it's the biggest and most entertaining distraction known to man, at least since an Egyptian called Imoteph uttered the words 'Hey guys, I've got an idea - instead of wasting our time growing food and learning to write and stuff let's all go out into the desert to carve massive blocks of limestone into cubes and pile them up in sort of 200 foot tall square-based triangular shape for no logical reason' 4,700 years ago and proceeded to occupy the entire Egyptian nation for the next two thousand years building successively larger ones until someone realised they hadn't the foggiest idea what they were for or why they were doing it. Which, coincidentally, is why the Egyptians never invented soap operas, water skiing or the internet and why the millennial generation will never amount to anything worth writing about so will be forever remembered as the generation did little other than shout angrily at pieces of electronic gadgetry made in a land far far way, without knowing how, what, why or where any of that seemed so vitally important at the time. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2016 at 10:08
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:


4. Opinions are like arseholes - everyone has one.
Not true; I strive to keep myself balanced by always having two opposing ones. Smile


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2016 at 10:16
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:


I need to amend my list.

1.  Pure entertainment....
Presactly ... it's the biggest and most entertaining distraction known to man, at least since an Egyptian called Imoteph uttered the words 'Hey guys, I've got an idea - instead of wasting our time growing food and learning to write and stuff let's all go out into the desert to carve massive blocks of limestone into cubes and pile them up in sort of 200 foot tall square-based triangular shape for no logical reason' 4,700 years ago and proceeded to occupy the entire Egyptian nation for the next two thousand years building successively larger ones until someone realised they hadn't the foggiest idea what they were for or why they were doing it. Which, coincidentally, is why the Egyptians never invented soap operas, water skiing or the internet and why the millennial generation will never amount to anything worth writing about so will be forever remembered as the generation did little other than shout angrily at pieces of electronic gadgetry made in a land far far way, without knowing how, what, why or where any of that seemed so vitally important at the time. 


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this is why we love the internet... far more stimulating than porn.. a stiff breeze works as well as anything porn... but a good rant on the internet...

priceless. Thumbs Up

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2016 at 10:41
I posted a serious question, so it looks as though I'll have to answer it.
 
No. Instant communication around the world has not done anything substantial like ending armed conflicts, but has become a tool to draw in the socially outcast into militant groups like ISIS.
 
It is also used by many, without a purpose in life, as a time wasting toy.
 
Aside from the brief above stated negatives, I can't say anything positive about the Internet.
 
And that is serious. And sad. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2016 at 10:45
it is a tool..  one can use it.. or abuse it.  Thus it is not good or bad in itself. Zero sum gain. For all the good it does is balanced by the negative elements.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2016 at 10:55
^^  That's pretty much it. The down side far outweighs the upside.
I came back to the internet (mainly for music) two years ago. For the previous year and a half I had no internet and I got by just fine. 
To this day I refuse to use my cell phone to go online.

I'm old school anyway. I clearly remember black and white TV and hard line rotary dial telephones.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2016 at 10:56
oh yes.. I do draw the line there with phones.  I still use an old school flip phone. No smart phone.. no internet with it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2016 at 10:58
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

 It is also used by many, without a purpose in life, as a time wasting toy.

True, but in that regard is it really any different than TV or video games?

I'm on the fence about the pros/cons of the internet. I do like being able to search for just about anything. Google maps, particularly the street view, has been invaluable for me.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2016 at 16:19
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

I posted a serious question, so it looks as though I'll have to answer it.
 
No. Instant communication around the world has not done anything substantial like ending armed conflicts, but has become a tool to draw in the socially outcast into militant groups like ISIS.
 
It is also used by many, without a purpose in life, as a time wasting toy.
 
Aside from the brief above stated negatives, I can't say anything positive about the Internet.
 
And that is serious. And sad. 


Well, then, nothing really new since the invention of paper and books (which lead to propaganda leaflets, recruitment files, etc...) or cinema and TV which are also time wasting toys (just go and watch Star Wars again, and dare to tell me it's better than Dante, Cervantes, Virgile and their pairs)

If you expected Internet to end armed conflicts or to end the hunger in the world just because it's an instant communication tool, maybe you failed to see what's Internet: it's a tool. Nothing more.
If one wants the world to change into a better world, we have to work on the human society itself. The human mind won't evolve just because we bring it some new communication tool: telephone hadn't changed the world, television hadn't changed the world, newspapers hadn't changed the world...

Or maybe the changes were so tiny in comparison to the dementially huge expectations one can have for the mankind that one is just unable to realise what comfort the utilisation of tools may bring.
Internet isn't a magical wand which makes people better, wiser, more tolerant... It's just a tool.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2016 at 18:48
I am thankful for threads like these.  They make this just on the wrong side of 30 guy feel a little less old.  Won't say more.

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