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    Posted: September 20 2016 at 03:37
See, the problem right there is relating it to a scene. I think prog is just a medium. An expansive medium that could be anything. Therefore I don't think there should be a stereotype. At least not in the way that punk or metal is stereotyped. Certain dress codes, etc. I find all that stuff excessively silly. And I do love death metal too. But scenes are incredibly stupid.

With all that being said. What is the prog stereotype really?
Being from South Africa, I can't say I've come into contact with any stereotype, unless being 60+ counts. I'm 29 years of age, which is young, but I can't say I've ever encountered the whole "Good lord, you listen to prog?!" scenario. It seems rather improbable considering the few people I've met like other forms of music too, making it about a love of music and not about any particular scene.

The only people that do tend to have that reaction are people that are part of some ridiculous scene or don't really listen to music, so to them it seems strange, because most people want to belong to some sort of clique. Just take a looks at the punks and their whole 'non-conformist' conformism.

I might've got slightly side-tracked, but hopefully you get the gist of it.
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......don't have to be stoned to appreciate music, surely it 'enhances' but doesn't 'better' the music.
.......for years I've assumed all Death-Metal bands were angry dudes coke'd up to the eyeballs in fury.........absolutely NOT the case............... Many of them have had less booze and drugs than many of us 'regular' folks..........
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2016 at 02:46
Originally posted by HemispheresOfXanadu HemispheresOfXanadu wrote:

I love stoner rock and I don't drink or smoke weed. And I'm 21 so I'e been legal drinking age for almost 3 years.
Me too, although I'm 22. The music is more than enough to feel stoned LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 19 2016 at 19:33
I love stoner rock and I don't drink or smoke weed. And I'm 21 so I'e been legal drinking age for almost 3 years.

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I'm a geek, I love Kajagoogoo, and Gorguts, Sade and Art Zoyd. Talk about messed-up.......
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2016 at 22:25
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2016 at 21:44
I'm not a prog fan as much as I'm a rock/pop fan who enjoys prog rock, especially RPI. 

And I have all the Carpenters albums.  Big smile 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2016 at 21:16
Originally posted by HosiannaMantra HosiannaMantra wrote:

I came to the conclusion that listening to King Crimson, Genesis, Yes and some other major prog acts is not that strange at all for any age, gender, profession etc I am aware of. However, my keen interest in discovering old prog bands from all over the world usually raises some eyebrows, and I should play my favorite Modry Efekt, Omega and Sfinx songs in public more often to gain some attention. LOL


You should, also I just ordered Blue Effect's Boxset, gotta say that I'm excited.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2016 at 20:28
Well I'm a 22 year old female and I've been listening to prog for about 4 years now. Anyways, there does seem to be a stereotype that many prog fans are males. In reality though, prog fans seem to be quite a diverse group that live all around the world, which only reflects the diversity of bands and musicians within prog. You can find just about any type of influence in prog. It is a shame that the stereotype surrounding prog is that of white men (usually English) who sing about fairies and elves when in fact the reality is so different. You can find prog bands and musicians in any country of any ethnic background who sing about everything from relationships, current events, by-gone days, politics, war, environmentalism, fantasy, sci-fi, spirituality, religion, etc.


Honestly, I dont know what it is about prog that interests me so much. I guess it is the individuality. Each group (at least the ones that I loves) seems to have their own unique sound, and the music has depth so I dont get tired of it in two weeks time. LOL Honestly, it just seems to gel with my personality. I have an old soul, I'm interested in many different things, and I like things that are unique/ different, and prog is a perfect fit.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2016 at 17:13
I came to the conclusion that listening to King Crimson, Genesis, Yes and some other major prog acts is not that strange at all for any age, gender, profession etc I am aware of. However, my keen interest in discovering old prog bands from all over the world usually raises some eyebrows, and I should play my favorite Modry Efekt, Omega and Sfinx songs in public more often to gain some attention. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2016 at 17:02
I am 19 years old. Places like Brazil are very strange to like something as progressive rock.
But i can live...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2016 at 15:34
Great Prog Music!....

Camel, Twelfth Night, Stackridge, Nova, IQ, Pendragon, Renaissance, The Enid, Gryphon, Pallas, Satellite, Riverside, Genesis, Yes, Metamorphosis, ELP, Transatlantic , Greenslade, Colosseum, Also Eden, Sky, Harmonium, Millennium, Tangerine Dream and so many more bands. Smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2016 at 15:22
If you don't have a van with a rad wizard painted on the side, prog isn't for you.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2016 at 15:19
Originally posted by DDPascalDD DDPascalDD wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by DDPascalDD DDPascalDD wrote:

Does a 16 year old fit the image of a non stereotypical proghead? ;D
I wouldn't call myself as an extremely introverted type though, but rather introverted than extroverted. I just listen to prog because I like more complex music (love to analyse) and prefer it to classical because classical just gets a little boring after a while and I adore the progressive nature of prog.
Having a different taste than most others/against the mainstream suits the image of an introvert well, however, artists on stage don't seem like introverts at all. And the showing off part resonates more with an extrovert rather than an introverted type.


Quite a few performers are introverts who overcame shyness -- quiet, reserved people normally who go wild on stage. Its like acting, many actors get into it overcome social anxieties, and many are naturally outgoing too. When I taught kindergarten I liked to entertain the kids with all sorts of zaniness, but normally I'm extremely reserved and uncomfortable being around people. I guess I'm a bit of a sad clown figure.

I don't like rock concerts generally because of the showing off and the noisy audience. That is part of my quiet introverted nature -- boisterous yahoo type of people have always made me uncomfortable.   I much prefer going to classical music concerts, because to me the performers are more dignified and the audience is not rowdy. When I'm enjoying music I don't want people cheering, clapping, and screaming around me. I do like to go to smaller venues for jazz though. Like the progressive rock umbrella, the classical music umbrella (more appropriately called art and academic music) is very diverse (and covers various periods) and there is a lot of it that falls under the umbrella category that is very progressive and experimental.

I didn't mean that showing off is a good thing, hope you don't misunderstand me. But I completely understand your preferences of audience. I'd be very uncomfortable at a disco/dance party and agree that people at certain concerts can be quite "distracting" as well.


Nope didn't misunderstand you at all. I commonly just use other people's thoughts as a springboard for my rambling thoughts and personal reflections. And sometimes when people think I'm disagreeing with them I'm just expanding on things or looking at things from a different perspective. I'm uncomfortable at disco/ dance parties not only because I feel uncomfortable in crowded places, but because I felt uncomfortable asking girls to dance, as well as being asked to dance by girls. It's not really because I'm nervous around girls, but because I'm such a bad dancer that my moves have proved injurious -- punch, punch kick, Staying Alive was an effort with me as a disco dance partner. I have a terrible sense of rhythm and sometimes would try to make up for it, or cover it up, with over-exuberance, at other times I'd be standing there doing next to nothing, either way, it was embarrassing.      
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2016 at 15:01
As far as I'm concerned age doesn't really play into it. There are tons of young dudes that listen to prog (and classic rock and stuff like that) a ton if not exclusively on principle. (I'd say, if anything, race is probably more of a notable factor than age. We do tend to be a somewhat white-heavy listener-base, though rarely if ever is that a conscious let alone purposeful distinction.)
Now as far as gender goes, I would say that females are a fair bit less common, but the girls I see into prog tend to be super into prog; prog fangirls (and a lot of these are younger, too, in my experience).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2016 at 14:50
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by DDPascalDD DDPascalDD wrote:

Does a 16 year old fit the image of a non stereotypical proghead? ;D
I wouldn't call myself as an extremely introverted type though, but rather introverted than extroverted. I just listen to prog because I like more complex music (love to analyse) and prefer it to classical because classical just gets a little boring after a while and I adore the progressive nature of prog.
Having a different taste than most others/against the mainstream suits the image of an introvert well, however, artists on stage don't seem like introverts at all. And the showing off part resonates more with an extrovert rather than an introverted type.


Quite a few performers are introverts who overcame shyness -- quiet, reserved people normally who go wild on stage. Its like acting, many actors get into it overcome social anxieties, and many are naturally outgoing too. When I taught kindergarten I liked to entertain the kids with all sorts of zaniness, but normally I'm extremely reserved and uncomfortable being around people. I guess I'm a bit of a sad clown figure.

I don't like rock concerts generally because of the showing off and the noisy audience. That is part of my quiet introverted nature -- boisterous yahoo type of people have always made me uncomfortable.   I much prefer going to classical music concerts, because to me the performers are more dignified and the audience is not rowdy. When I'm enjoying music I don't want people cheering, clapping, and screaming around me. I do like to go to smaller venues for jazz though. Like the progressive rock umbrella, the classical music umbrella (more appropriately called art and academic music) is very diverse (and covers various periods) and there is a lot of it that falls under the umbrella category that is very progressive and experimental.

I didn't mean that showing off is a good thing, hope you don't misunderstand me. But I completely understand your preferences of audience. I'd be very uncomfartable at a disco/dance party and agree that people at certain concerts can be quite "distracting" as well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2016 at 15:00
Well, I got into prog when I was a teen. I am male. Most of the times I see people with prog shirts at the mall, they are either white men over the age of 40 Or white men in their twenties. That doesn't mean that black people dislike prog, because a lot of blacks listen to jazz, which is related to prog because of its complexity. I can relate to the men in their twenties, they discovered prog thanks to the internet or probably their fathers.

It's okay if you listen to prog being a girl, listen to what you like, that will make you happy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2016 at 14:49
Originally posted by DDPascalDD DDPascalDD wrote:

Does a 16 year old fit the image of a non stereotypical proghead? ;D
I wouldn't call myself as an extremely introverted type though, but rather introverted than extroverted. I just listen to prog because I like more complex music (love to analyse) and prefer it to classical because classical just gets a little boring after a while and I adore the progressive nature of prog.
Having a different taste than most others/against the mainstream suits the image of an introvert well, however, artists on stage don't seem like introverts at all. And the showing off part resonates more with an extrovert rather than an introverted type.


Quite a few performers are introverts who overcame shyness -- quiet, reserved people normally who go wild on stage. Its like acting, many actors get into it overcome social anxieties, and many are naturally outgoing too. When I taught kindergarten I liked to entertain the kids with all sorts of zaniness, but normally I'm extremely reserved and uncomfortable being around people. I guess I'm a bit of a sad clown figure.

I don't like rock concerts generally because of the showing off and the noisy audience. That is part of my quiet introverted nature -- boisterous yahoo type of people have always made me uncomfortable.   I much prefer going to classical music concerts, because to me the performers are more dignified and the audience is not rowdy. When I'm enjoying music I don't want people cheering, clapping, and screaming around me. I do like to go to smaller venues for jazz though. Like the progressive rock umbrella, the classical music umbrella (more appropriately called art and academic music) is very diverse (and covers various periods) and there is a lot of it that falls under the umbrella category that is very progressive and experimental.

Edited by Logan - September 14 2016 at 14:51
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2016 at 14:26
Does a 16 year old fit the image of a non stereotypical proghead? ;D
I wouldn't call myself as an extremely introverted type though, but rather introverted than extroverted. I just listen to prog because I like more complex music (love to analyse) and prefer it to classical because classical just gets a little boring after a while and I adore the progressive nature of prog.
Having a different taste than most others/against the mainstream suits the image of an introvert well, however, artists on stage don't seem like introverts at all. And the showing off part resonates more with an extrovert rather than an introverted type.

Edited by DDPascalDD - September 14 2016 at 14:27
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 14 2016 at 13:42
Oh and I don't see myself as a full-on progger.
I've made that mistake too often.
I'm just a music enthousiast.

Don't care if it's westcoast Fleetwood Mac-pop or dancetronica or speedmetal.
I'm just not that into occult and dark/depressing stuff.
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