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Poll Question: Who is your favorite?
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Originally posted by Flight123 Flight123 wrote:

As Daevid Allen was a lodger at Robert Wyatt's parents in Lydden, he has the direct link too!
Allen was also in The Soft Machine, before their first album. He was denied re-entry to the UK, so he settled in France where he founded Gong.
Originally posted by Kingsnake Kingsnake wrote:

Never knew that Mike Oldfield was tied to the Canterbury-scene.
He played in Kevin Ayers solo backing band The Whole World, if I'm not mistaken.

As for the poll, it's an easy vote for Stewart for me. Love his work in both Khan and HatN, but especially "The Rotters' Club", one of my all time favourite albums.


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Originally posted by The Bearded Bard The Bearded Bard wrote:

Originally posted by Kingsnake Kingsnake wrote:

Never knew that Mike Oldfield was tied to the Canterbury-scene.
He played in Kevin Ayers solo backing band The Whole World, if I'm not mistaken.

Not only that! If you have watched the BBC recording of Tubular Bells, good most of the musicians are the Canterburian names - John Greaves, Mike Ratledge, Steve Hillage, Fred Frith, Pierre Moerlen, and Karl Jenkins. He also guested on many Canterbury albums, my favorite being Robert Wyatt's Theatre Royal Drury Lane live album with Dave Stewart, Fred Frith, Hugh Hopper, Laurie Allan, Mongezi Feza, Gary Windo, and Ivor Cutler. These are just a few connections I have on top of my head.

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Okay, each of them even played an organ solo that I'll rank among my all time 10 favorites. Can't vote here. Confused
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Dave Sinclair even if I love all three of them. Dave just has something...erm magical about his melodic intonation that really hits home with me. Stewart is far and away the most gifted though - he can probably run circles around just about any prog keyboardist you care to throw at him...but I opted to vote for my favourite.
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The only Camel album that has a strong Canterbury-esque vibe to me is Mirage, probably due to Bardens' fuzzy organ tones.
I believe Dave Sinclair sat in as keyboardist between Bardens leaving and Watkins/Schelhaas joining. I have a recording somewhere of Camel with the 2 Sinclair's.
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Breathless is with Dave Sinclair (although he is not credited.)

Raindances and Breathless are really Canterbury-style to me.
Both albums have Richard Sinclair on vocals. Both albums have sax and flute, and both albums venture into jazzy songs. Raindances even has Brian Eno guesting.


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Originally posted by ALotOfBottle ALotOfBottle wrote:

Originally posted by The Bearded Bard The Bearded Bard wrote:

Originally posted by Kingsnake Kingsnake wrote:

Never knew that Mike Oldfield was tied to the Canterbury-scene.
He played in Kevin Ayers solo backing band The Whole World, if I'm not mistaken.

Not only that! If you have watched the BBC recording of Tubular Bells, good most of the musicians are the Canterburian names - John Greaves, Mike Ratledge, Steve Hillage, Fred Frith, Pierre Moerlen, and Karl Jenkins. He also guested on many Canterbury albums, my favorite being Robert Wyatt's Theatre Royal Drury Lane live album with Dave Stewart, Fred Frith, Hugh Hopper, Laurie Allan, Mongezi Feza, Gary Windo, and Ivor Cutler. These are just a few connections I have on top of my head.

Sorry for going off-topic.
You're right! Knew there was a closer connection than TWW, had slipped my mind.

And I, too, am sorry for going off-topic. (They started it. Tongue)


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Originally posted by Kingsnake Kingsnake wrote:

Breathless is with Dave Sinclair (although he is not credited.
News to me !! Sounds like Bardens playing style throughout.
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Originally posted by Flight123 Flight123 wrote:

Originally posted by infocat infocat wrote:

I have to say Stewart, but all are great.


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Originally posted by Kingsnake Kingsnake wrote:

So there's the geographic definition and the stylistic definition.

Reminds me of the discussion about Southern Rock, whereas Santana and Little Feat (amongst others) were geographically Southern Rock and Stevie Ray Vaughan and Creedence Clearwater Revival (amongst many others) were not geographically but stylistically Southern rock.
 

Woah woah woah what do you mean Santana and Little Feat were "geographically" southern rock? They were both formed in California...

And Stevie Ray Vaughan is geographically and stylistically southern rock (born in Dallas, Texas, Double Trouble was formed in Austin). I wouldn't consider him part of the southern rock scene, personally, though, since he has no personal connections (to my knowledge) to any of the other classic southern rock bands.

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Originally posted by Magnum Vaeltaja Magnum Vaeltaja wrote:

Originally posted by Kingsnake Kingsnake wrote:

So there's the geographic definition and the stylistic definition.

Reminds me of the discussion about Southern Rock, whereas Santana and Little Feat (amongst others) were geographically Southern Rock and Stevie Ray Vaughan and Creedence Clearwater Revival (amongst many others) were not geographically but stylistically Southern rock.
 

Woah woah woah what do you mean Santana and Little Feat were "geographically" southern rock? They were both formed in California...

And Stevie Ray Vaughan is geographically and stylistically southern rock (born in Dallas, Texas, Double Trouble was formed in Austin). I wouldn't consider him part of the southern rock scene, personally, though, since he has no personal connections (to my knowledge) to any of the other classic southern rock bands.

If there's one thing I will not condone on this forum, that would be misinformation about southern rock! Disapprove

Texas is not considered one of the Southern states. That's why a lot of Southern rock-orthodox people don't consider SRV and ZZ Top part of Southern Rock. I really don't care if they are Southern rock, or just Texas bluesrock (wich seams to be a musical genre aswell).

I was totally wrong about Santana and Little Feat (I looked it up), but why were those bands thrown into the discussion long ago. Can't remember. Point is, that Southern Rock is more a sylistic thing than a geographical thing.
 
I like that to happen to Canterbury-style prog to. So that Supersister and Kraan can be included to (amongst others)
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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Originally posted by Kingsnake Kingsnake wrote:

Breathless is with Dave Sinclair (although he is not credited.
News to me !! Sounds like Bardens playing style throughout.
 
According to this website ( http://www.magenta.co.il/camel/albums/breath.htm ), Dave only played on one song (Rainbow's End), although still not credited.
 
So I was a bit mistaken. Dave played on the tour though.
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I also thought Kit Watkins was superb when I saw him on the 'I Can See Your House' tour - his solo albums are worth checking out as well.  I am not sure why the Sinclair cousins got ousted from Camel in the end...
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Originally posted by Kingsnake Kingsnake wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Originally posted by Kingsnake Kingsnake wrote:

Breathless is with Dave Sinclair (although he is not credited.
News to me !! Sounds like Bardens playing style throughout.

 
According to this website ( http://www.magenta.co.il/camel/albums/breath.htm ), Dave only played on one song (Rainbow's End), although still not credited.
 
So I was a bit mistaken. Dave played on the tour though.
Yes, I do have a live recording of Camel in '79 wirh Dave.
Love both Raindances and Breatless (can hear the Canterburyisms with Rich S) but still lacking in a bit with the 'feel'. Then again, these albums are more Canterbuggers sounding than Blnd Dog and Better By Far.........
I still find GonG a bit of a stretch with the 'traditional' Canterbuggers sound. The track 'Chandra' is about as Canty as it gets (thanks to Patrice's fuzzy organ..............(yeah, for some reason, I define the Canterbury sound with fuzzy keys..........)
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Gong is also a lot being categorized as a spacerock band. Go figure.
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Dave Stewart.
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Stewart easily, even though I like all 3.
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It's Dave Stewart, but that takes absolutely nothing away from the other two.
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All three are great.


I'll vote for Ratty.
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