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Posted: September 22 2016 at 15:22
Overhyped? Maybe 2112. No, Moving Pictures had the ability of simply selling itself because of its general excellence. Sure, Tom Sawyer and Limelight were relegated to being force-fed the populace as standard radio fodder by the powers that be, but this took nothing away from the general appeal of the album among Rush-ites and those that followed. Geddy Lee once opined that 'Pictures was the moment Rush finally came around full circle as a writing and performing unit.
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Posted: September 22 2016 at 15:26
Well, I can't say I go out of my way to listen to it much anymore. Mostly due to playing it to death when I was a teenager. But overhyped? No. It is an amazing record. Complex and interesting.
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Posted: September 22 2016 at 18:26
How I've said in my reviews about Rush albums ( from RUSH until Grace Under Preasure) , my top Rush album is "A Farewell To KIngs" followed by "Hemispheres" and "2112". However, I consider "Moving Pictures" also a truly masterpiece, as well as "Permanent Waves". !!!
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Posted: September 22 2016 at 19:27
Overhyped "Rush" album? Certainly not. Moving Pictures is some of the tightest material the band ever did, right alongside Permanent Waves.
Is it an overhyped album in prog circles? Perhaps, since about half the album is, at its core, just standard hard rock. And the other half is just slightly more complex hard rock.
So to answer the OP, I'll say that no, Moving Pictures is not an overhyped Rush album.
Rednight wrote:
Geddy Lee once opined that 'Pictures was the moment Rush finally came around full circle as a writing and performing unit.
I think that that just about sums up Moving Pictures.
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No. Moving Pictures is a great album. I still can’t believe Tom Sawyer became as popular as it did, I mean it’s a great song but it doesn’t sound commercial at all. To me MP is perfect.
I credit the taste of radio programmers for putting Rush into the mainstream and not just whatever trend that week. The thing is it's not like the public go for just 3 albums and reject the rest. Most Rush fans get into most things Rush. Individuals have their preferences one way or another of course.
Me. I bought the record and thought it was great, with a mild reservation over The Camera Eye. They followed that with the tour record which I liked even more.
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Posted: September 24 2016 at 06:05
TexasKing wrote:
Do you consider this Rush album overhyped?
in general? No way... great fricking album.
for this site? Oh hell yeah... it was a great AOR album. Very little prog about it. Should be ranked about where 90125 is. Both fabulous albums... hell the Yes album is perhaps even more outwardly prog and we generally know what proggers think of 90125.
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Posted: September 24 2016 at 17:00
I personally have never understood the distaste/alarm many PA members have about the words "overrated and underrated."
All it means is that you disagree with the prevailing written or numerical judgements about an album. So what? Isn't that the point of a "rating" / "review" website? To register opinion? So if one disagrees with prevailing opinions about something like Foxtrot, what is wrong with saying that you personally feel it is overrated? You are saying exactly that anyway if you give it a low rating. So I'll never understand that one.
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Posted: September 24 2016 at 17:15
Finnforest wrote:
I personally have never understood the distaste/alarm many PA members have about the words "overrated and underrated."
All it means is that you disagree with the prevailing written or numerical judgements about an album. So what? Isn't that the point of a "rating" / "review" website? To register opinion? So if one disagrees with prevailing opinions about something like Foxtrot, what is wrong with saying that you personally feel it is overrated? You are saying exactly that anyway if you give it a low rating. So I'll never understand that one.
No alarm whatsoever in my case. My objection to the use of "overrated" is just that it is generally used as a synonym of "I don't like it". As there is no objective way of measuring an album's worth (or a book's, or a movie's....), I find the use of such a word lazy, to say the least. Then again, I am not the biggest fan of giving numerical ratings, especially when not accompanied by reviews.
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Posted: September 24 2016 at 18:23
^ That is how I always take the word "overrated", essentially another way someone to express "I don't like it". I always find that these comparisons by the author of such posts is that 1 album they like and the other you find out later they don't.
The discussions always go down the tube after a few posts.
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Posted: September 24 2016 at 19:47
The word overrated doesn't necessarily mean you don't like it, just that you have a different opinion of its accumulated rating. You can like an album quite a lot yet still believe the average site rating too high. It's just one of many adjectives that could be used to describe such a scenario that is, if we admit it, very common. It's not an insult, or at least, it doesn't need to be.
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Posted: September 24 2016 at 19:56
Finnforest wrote:
The word overrated doesn't necessarily mean you don't like it, just that you have a different opinion of its accumulated rating. You can like an album quite a lot yet still believe the average site rating too high. It's just one of many adjectives that could be used to describe such a scenario that is, if we admit it, very common. It's not an insult, or at least, it doesn't need to be.
Exactly. For example, I love Anglagard's "Hybris" (I'd probably rate it a 5 star album) but I think that it being ranked 18th on the PA top 100 is way too high. Hence, I think it's overrated.
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Posted: September 24 2016 at 20:04
All you people claiming that we should just present qualitative opinions are being crazy. Saying one album is good and another isn't? Madness! Once the collective has passed down its judgement, who are we to disagree? All hail the priests of the temples of Syrinx.
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Posted: September 24 2016 at 20:38
There are many albums like that for me, albums that I like and I enjoy, but would rate them an entire star or two less than many others. Some people forget that 3 stars actually means a "good album".
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