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Man Overboard
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Topic: Ugh, damn racists. Posted: August 31 2005 at 01:55 |
So since he's black, he's looting?
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The Doctor
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Posted: August 31 2005 at 02:11 |
Hmmmmm...we don't know the whole story here, but damn it sure looks pretty racist to me. But I know as a white person I would always find stuff, but I would never loot.
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Man Overboard
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Posted: August 31 2005 at 02:13 |
Finding stuff is like... ever played Zelda, or a mainstream
RPG? You walk into people's houses and "find stuff" all the time.
I'm sure of Link were black, racists everywhere would have an uproar at
the "blatant theft and looting" it taught their children.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: August 31 2005 at 02:18 |
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KoS
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Posted: August 31 2005 at 03:12 |
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Wolf Spider
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Posted: August 31 2005 at 04:01 |
My friend o0nce said: I hate two things: racism and black people.
But seriously: racism sucks ass
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The Hemulen
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Posted: August 31 2005 at 04:04 |
That is really quite shocking. I'm appalled.
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JrKASperov
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Posted: August 31 2005 at 05:58 |
That's quite appaling, I'm shocked.
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Blacksword
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Posted: August 31 2005 at 07:06 |
Thats appaling I'm not in the least bit shocked.
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James Lee
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Posted: August 31 2005 at 07:21 |
Yeah, I gotta agree with Blacksword on that one. It doesn't surprise me at all any more, but it still makes me sad.
The most troubling part is that it's probably not just a specific
conscious agenda, just a difference in word choice by an underpaid AP
writer or two- who wouldn't even think twice about what they'd written
unless you pointed it out to them. I'll bet the author of the first
caption probably doesn't even consider himself racist.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 31 2005 at 08:25 |

The whites only have bread and soda, for eating immediately I guess. The black man has a whole big bag of stuff, we don't know what he's taken!
Anyway, I reckon by law, they are both looting!
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Blacksword
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Posted: August 31 2005 at 08:30 |
James Lee wrote:
Yeah, I gotta agree with Blacksword on that one. It doesn't surprise me at all any more, but it still makes me sad.
The most troubling part is that it's probably not just a specific conscious agenda, just a difference in word choice by an underpaid AP writer or two- who wouldn't even think twice about what they'd written unless you pointed it out to them. I'll bet the author of the first caption probably doesn't even consider himself racist. |
Of all the ethnic groups in the US, would you say that the black population gets the roughest deal in terms of media image, treatment at work etc? More so than Asian, Hispanic, Jewish etc..??
I'm just curious, because in the UK, the black and white communities seem better intergrated than ever before. Our biggest targets for racist abuse are Asians, or more specifically Muslims, although Hindus and Sikhs take a fair amount of sh!t day to day.

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barbs
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Posted: August 31 2005 at 09:22 |
Is there some kind of nationwide Media watch program that you have over
there to highlight bias, misrepresentation etc in reporting. I have
been following the media reports about the Hurricane from in Australia
and I have seen at least two other pics from tv newsmedia reports and
internet that portrayed the same thing regarding looting.
From my understanding of New Orleans demographics, there is
approximately 25% of the population on the poverty line with quite a
large percentage of African/American people who lived in the French
Quarter,(where alot of the devastation occured) in that category.
I would not be surprised if they were planning to change that
demographic around, because developers could turn that area into prime
real estate (ocean/bay views are always sought after if you can develop
it for the mid/upper market) and from the initial comments by a
spokesperson they were planning on relocating alot of people out of
that area into temporary accomodation somewhere else on the basis of
safety and logistics.
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: August 31 2005 at 09:50 |
doesn't bother me in the least. chances are he was looting. a lot of blacks are looting downtown NO, finally the police are cracking down.
its not racism its reality. look at the videos of the looting in new orleans, they are takign TV's and sh*t not bread, and there isn't a white face in the crowd. I'm not saying only blacks loot or that all blacks loot, but some do, and they are doing it right now.
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Scrambled_Eggs
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Posted: August 31 2005 at 09:58 |
NetsNJFan wrote:
doesn't bother me in the least. chances are he was looting. a lot of blacks are looting downtown NO, finally the police are cracking down.
its not racism its reality. look at the videos of the looting in new orleans, they are takign TV's and sh*t not bread, and there isn't a white face in the crowd. I'm not saying only blacks loot or that all blacks loot, but some do, and they are doing it right now.
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I 'ave to agree. People are too anti-racist minded these days. You can't say anything with out someone pointing a finger at you and screamning "racist." I'm not a racist, but people need to stop jumping to conclusions o'er such trivial matters, when there are much bigger things going on.
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: August 31 2005 at 09:59 |
Scrambled_Eggs wrote:
NetsNJFan wrote:
doesn't bother me in the least. chances are he was looting. a lot of blacks are looting downtown NO, finally the police are cracking down.
its not racism its reality. look at the videos of the looting in new orleans, they are takign TV's and sh*t not bread, and there isn't a white face in the crowd. I'm not saying only blacks loot or that all blacks loot, but some do, and they are doing it right now.
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I 'ave to agree. People are too anti-racist minded these days. You can't say anything with out someone pointing a finger at you and screamning "racist." I'm not a racist, but people need to stop jumping to conclusions o'er such trivial matters, when there are much bigger things going on.
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what a breath of fresh air. I though I was going to get flamed for saying "Some Blacks do loot, and they are doing it right now".
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spectral
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Posted: August 31 2005 at 10:15 |
Scrambled_Eggs wrote:
I 'ave to agree. People are too anti-racist minded these days. You can't say anything with out someone pointing a finger at you and screamning "racist." I'm not a racist, but people need to stop jumping to conclusions o'er such trivial matters, when there are much bigger things going on. |
You say people need to stop jumping to conclusions, well isn't this what the media has done? If someone picked up the newspaper with a "looting" black guy in the photo, they are gonna be led to the conclusion that the guy is stealing, even though the white folks are doing the exact same thing. Why does there have to be one rule for blacks and another rule for everyone else. If the media or whoever is going to create a race distinction in situations like this, then it is only go to exacerbate racial tensions in the future. We're all created equal after all, so we should be treated equally too and this means not tarring everyone with the same brush and not making general, sweeping statements about a particular race. I doubt all blacks are "looting", likewise I doubt all whites are "finding."
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Scrambled_Eggs
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Posted: August 31 2005 at 10:53 |
spectral wrote:
You say people need to stop jumping to conclusions, well isn't this what the media has done? If someone picked up the newspaper with a "looting" black guy in the photo, they are gonna be led to the conclusion that the guy is stealing, even though the white folks are doing the exact same thing. Why does there have to be one rule for blacks and another rule for everyone else. If the media or whoever is going to create a race distinction in situations like this, then it is only go to exacerbate racial tensions in the future. We're all created equal after all, so we should be treated equally too and this means not tarring everyone with the same brush and not making general, sweeping statements about a particular race. I doubt all blacks are "looting", likewise I doubt all whites are "finding." |
I concur that all blacks are not "looting" and all whites are not "finding," but the articles were written by two different people (I assume) and every person 'as their own writing style. Besides we don't even know all the facts. Perhaps the white people "found" the food floating outside a supermarket, while the black man actually "looted" it from a dry supermarket. There is not enough information from those two articles that 'as justifiable evidence of racisim.
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There's no reason for it, you've gotta go sometime.
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spectral
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Posted: August 31 2005 at 10:58 |
Scrambled_Eggs wrote:
spectral wrote:
You say people need to stop jumping to conclusions, well isn't this what the media has done? If someone picked up the newspaper with a "looting" black guy in the photo, they are gonna be led to the conclusion that the guy is stealing, even though the white folks are doing the exact same thing. Why does there have to be one rule for blacks and another rule for everyone else. If the media or whoever is going to create a race distinction in situations like this, then it is only go to exacerbate racial tensions in the future. We're all created equal after all, so we should be treated equally too and this means not tarring everyone with the same brush and not making general, sweeping statements about a particular race. I doubt all blacks are "looting", likewise I doubt all whites are "finding." |
I concur that all blacks are not "looting" and all whites are not "finding," but the articles were written by two different people (I assume) and every person 'as their own writing style. Besides we don't even know all the facts. Perhaps the white people "found" the food floating outside a supermarket, while the black man actually "looted" it from a dry supermarket. There is not enough information from those two articles that 'as justifiable evidence of racisim.
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Equally, perhaps the black guy found the bread and the white guys were looting.
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Scrambled_Eggs
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Posted: August 31 2005 at 11:00 |
spectral wrote:
Equally, perhaps the black guy found the bread and the white guys were looting.
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Agreed, but as I said we don't really know, so we can't make any justifiable accusations.
Edited by Scrambled_Eggs
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And I am not frightened of dying, any time will do, I
don't mind. Why should I be frightened of dying?
There's no reason for it, you've gotta go sometime.
I never said I was frightened of dying.
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