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DDPascalDD
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Posted: December 03 2016 at 13:38 | |
I sure tend to think the same sometimes, but if we could right now give an easy answer on how music could be totally renewed... We would keep it for ourselves and work it out
But seriously, who could expect anything like rock in the 19th century? New genres have always kept coming, why would it suddenly stop? Maybe the most possibilities right now to renew are found in sound rather than composition, though.
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Thatfabulousalien
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Posted: December 03 2016 at 15:18 | |
Yes, microtonality is something that has been explored quite a bit in contemporary classical music but not as much in rock/metal. Of course the premise of techniques like pitch bending (you know, every 80s guitar solo? ) Plenty of aspects of microtonality combined with approaches to prog rock/metal in the spirit of bands like Art Zoyd haven't been explored enough or at all
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Thatfabulousalien
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Posted: December 03 2016 at 15:20 | |
I love Chrome Hoof and little known fact, Ben Levin is a 'buddy' of mine Bent Knee is an amazing and unique group!
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: December 03 2016 at 19:13 | |
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Angelo
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Posted: December 07 2016 at 04:57 | |
Oh I know about The Tea Club :) They came here through the unsigned bands section of the forum some years ago, I think I even proposed adding them here myself ;-)
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Kingsnake
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Posted: December 07 2016 at 05:19 | |
I really love modern bands that combine progressive music with electronic, ethnic and dance music:
Ozric Tentacles Hidria Spacefolk Shpongle ColorStar Körai Öröm Entheogenic etc.
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Lewian
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Posted: December 07 2016 at 07:27 | |
Every album of Holger Czukay is different from every other of his albums and actually from every other music there is.
Try this, for example: David Sylvian has progressed in an amazing manner throughout his career. Sometimes I come across bands or artists of which I think that they do something really unique and progressive (without defying that they have their influences), one such example is Everything Everything. Of course to what extent something really is new and "progressive" I can't know... I guess that there is more good African music that makes this lady not quite as original and progressive as she appears to me but still: |
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Kingsnake
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Posted: December 07 2016 at 07:38 | |
^ Rokia Traoré is amazing.
Earlier I mentioned Salif Keita aswell. Mali has a very musical and progressive scene. Extraordinairy! |
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Hrychu
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Posted: December 07 2016 at 07:52 | |
I used to be a huge prog rock fan. Then I realized there's no such thing as a distinction between progressive, prog and regressive. But that's just my opinion.
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Kingsnake
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Posted: December 07 2016 at 07:55 | |
I thought I was a progfan, until I realized that most bands I thought were progressive were not prog, and most bands I didn't like were progbands.
Now I think I like some progbands, and a lot of other bands. I love progressive music though, because I like experimentation and pushing the boundaries. |
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thepurplepiper
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Posted: December 07 2016 at 15:25 | |
I reckon Aquaserge are an interesting modern prog band, they hail from France and have an interesting jazzy/avant-garde approach to progressive rock. Lots of others in this thread have also pointed out how so much truly progressive music is being created, except that it is not necessarily contained simply to prog rock; this is very true. In terms of hip hop, I advise people to listen to Death Grips (if you are willing to listen to something wild and dissonant and noisier than you might be used to, mind) for some innovative rap music. I feel the most recent four Swans records have been wonderful collections of groovy post-rock with these towering climaxes that seem fit to break walls with the sheer sonic force of them. The wonderful harpist and singer/songwriter Joanna Newsom must also be mentioned; such a beautiful songwriter. Another rapper, Danny Brown, has had a recent record out that is very experimental with both fun and somber beats and brilliant songwriting. Deathspell Omega are a black metal band that utilize a lot of dissonant songwriting techniques to create these fascinating, grotesque soundscapes and I implore anybody reading to listen to The Synarchy of Molten Bones, their most recent work.
Those are just a couple musicians I could recall off the top of my head who I feel are exploring interesting and oft-overlooked places in their music. Of course metal bands have explored dissonance and monstrous sounding melodies and harmonies before (Gorguts) and of course there has been industrial hip hop before Death Grips (like with Dalek, for instance) but I think all of those artists a worth a listen.
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siLLy puPPy
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Posted: December 07 2016 at 18:01 | |
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: December 15 2016 at 01:46 | |
Upon re-acquainting myself with VENOM - back in the 80's, this was brutal, hard-core sh*t - I dared not listen to this too loud when I was 16. Now, Cronos and his cronies sound almost laughable in there extremities. Sure, they sound like a bunch of drunk kids stumbling upon a garage full of musical equipment, but as 'neanderthal' as they sounded back then, truth is - they could play. Perhaps drummer Abaddon was a bit sloppy, but truly relentless - and there's no 'blast-beat' double bass-drum work to match his at the time. And Cronos can pull off some real good and creative bass-lines surprisingly enough. The guitarist is blistering and knows what he's doing........ Great band, ballsy musicianship, and innovative. Really, an ambitious 20 minute 'Extreme' Metal piece back in 1984, must have some sort of 'Progressive' qualifications........
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Terrapin Station
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Posted: December 15 2016 at 03:43 | |
In my opinion, the idea of a distinction is incoherent, and only stems from people not understanding how language works--in this case with respect to how abbreviations evolve over time. The same thing often happens with synonyms, including those stemming from the same word in different languages (for example, "morality," which comes from the Latin word for "ethics," which comes from Greek).
Also, seeing progressive rock as something defined by a literal take on the word "progressive" is facile and shows no understanding of the music-theoretical and ideological commonalities of the stuff commonly, non-controversially considered to belong to the genre, or the historical development of it. |
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Terrapin Station
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Posted: December 15 2016 at 03:56 | |
It's certainly been done, but I'd say that we've only scratched the surface of it so far. One frustrating thing about it is that contemporary musical gear is not easily conducive to exploring microtonal music in depth. I've suggested to keyboard manufacturers, for example, that they should make it easy to do custom tunings by simply defining the pitch in cents for each key on a keyboard--it seems that that should be a relatively easy thing to engineer, but they don't bother because there is close to no demand for this. I've suggested likewise for drum machines with respect to odd times including theoretically possible time signatures like 7/3 for example (they're mathematically possible and effectively akin to metric modulations), polyrhythms, being able to program tempos that aren't steady/regular etc., but likewise, there's very little demand for anything like that, especially when most folks just want to know how to do cliched things with "boots and pants" grooves. Edited by Terrapin Station - December 15 2016 at 03:57 |
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