Is your opinion of what prog is different from...

... the general opinion?

mine probably is.

I will give 4 examples of albums I consider to be prog; however, none of the artists is in the archives (the Gandalf that is in the archives is a different artist), so the general opinion is probably different from mine.

I third that UFO album, it's a space rock classic. I wish they continued down that path.

Magnum Vaeltaja wrote: I agree with that UFO album. I'm not sure why they haven't been picked up for the psychedelic/space rock category. As far as some of my own examples of artists that I wholeheartedly believe are prog or prog-related artists that aren't included on the site, you've got: Allman Brothers Band Marshall Tucker Band Grateful Dead Joe Satriani (half of the guitarists in neo just copy his style anyway ) Steve Vai (in prog related, but I feel he should be in one of the "pure prog" categories) And as far as bands that are in the archives of which I regularly think "THEY'RE NOT PRAAAAWWWWWG!!!!", there's: Jethro Tull  Marillion Rush Do I ever expect these artists to get added/removed from the database as I'd like? Not really, and I can generally accept the rationale behind their inclusions and exclusions. And this handful of artists aside, I think that all of the past and present collaborators have done (and continue to do) a phenomenal job at categorizing the database.

Regardless of the virtues and merits for inclusion of those artists you think should be included (and I do not agree with any of them), I find it utterly staggering that you do not regard three of the finest proponents of the genre in Marillion, Tull, and Rush as not belonging here.

Seriously?

If Marillion's " Hooks in You " isn't Prog, I don't know what is. ;) Seriously, I generally tend to think of particular albums and songs as progressive rock rather than bands.

I consider William Sheller's album Lux Aeterna to be prog, but can understand why he isn't here due to discography concerns. And yes, I am posting the whole album, I own it on CD, in full as it is better to re-evaluate its merits.



I also consider various Ennio Morricone msuic to be fit for the archives (prog umbrella). There's a lot of music that I consider to be prog umbrealla music not to be found in PA, and that's fine.

A controversial addition I've shown support for in the past is having Cream in Proto-Prog, and I felt that P-Funk (both Parliament and Funkadelic) has merits (both had long debate threads before).

Edited by Logan - December 11 2016 at 14:29

lazland wrote: Magnum Vaeltaja wrote: I agree with that UFO album. I'm not sure why they haven't been picked up for the psychedelic/space rock category. As far as some of my own examples of artists that I wholeheartedly believe are prog or prog-related artists that aren't included on the site, you've got: Allman Brothers Band Marshall Tucker Band Grateful Dead Joe Satriani (half of the guitarists in neo just copy his style anyway ) Steve Vai (in prog related, but I feel he should be in one of the "pure prog" categories) And as far as bands that are in the archives of which I regularly think "THEY'RE NOT PRAAAAWWWWWG!!!!", there's: Jethro Tull  Marillion Rush Do I ever expect these artists to get added/removed from the database as I'd like? Not really, and I can generally accept the rationale behind their inclusions and exclusions. And this handful of artists aside, I think that all of the past and present collaborators have done (and continue to do) a phenomenal job at categorizing the database.  Regardless of the virtues and merits for inclusion of those artists you think should be included (and I do not agree with any of them), I find it utterly staggering that you do not regard three of the finest proponents of the genre in Marillion, Tull, and Rush as not belonging here. Seriously?

Cool thread idea. My idea of what prog is has expanded over the years. I didn't use to consider the Moody Blues prog for example. There are other bands too. Plus there are bands who aren't typically considered prog who have put out prog albums(or at least albums with strong prog elements) such as The Who and Led Zeppelin among others. 

AFlowerKingCrimson wrote: Cool thread idea. My idea of what prog is has expanded over the years. I didn't use to consider the Moody Blues prog for example. There are other bands too. Plus there are bands who aren't typically considered prog who have put out prog albums(or at least albums with strong prog elements) such as The Who and Led Zeppelin among others.

Yes, in the early 70s, a lot of generally non-prog artists put out proggy stuff, and some of it was quite good.

anotherscott wrote: AFlowerKingCrimson wrote: Cool thread idea. My idea of what prog is has expanded over the years. I didn't use to consider the Moody Blues prog for example. There are other bands too. Plus there are bands who aren't typically considered prog who have put out prog albums(or at least albums with strong prog elements) such as The Who and Led Zeppelin among others.  Yes, in the early 70s, a lot of generally non-prog artists put out proggy stuff, and some of it was quite good.

Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - December 11 2016 at 20:24

well reading the OP again, I apparently misunderstood the thread.

AFlowerKingCrimson wrote: anotherscott wrote: AFlowerKingCrimson wrote: Cool thread idea. My idea of what prog is has expanded over the years. I didn't use to consider the Moody Blues prog for example. There are other bands too. Plus there are bands who aren't typically considered prog who have put out prog albums(or at least albums with strong prog elements) such as The Who and Led Zeppelin among others.  Yes, in the early 70s, a lot of generally non-prog artists put out proggy stuff, and some of it was quite good. I'm sure there are a lot of examples. Some would be Elton John(funeral for a friend), Edgar Winter Group(Frankenstein), Sweet(love is like oxygen)the aforementioned Grateful Dead and Alman Brothers and a bunch of other stuff I can't think of right now.  A lot of stuff I see as being closer to art rock or maybe a band had a sound that never developed into full blown prog(Moody Blues, ELO, Pavlov's Dog, Family, Ambrosia, Crack the Sky, City Boy, Supertramp, Roxy Music etc). There are a lot of examples of bands that I would say are "almost prog." These days I don't care that much about labels and if people want to call these bands prog I'm ok with that.

Supertramp's debut in 1970 was pretty prog to me, especially with Try Again. Adore this track, and just feel like sharing it.