Genesis vs Van der Graaf (Generator)

charles_ryder wrote: VDGG is the solo project of Peter Hammill imho. I like it, but the band (like Genesis) is something more than one man and some good musicians (like VDGG).

Don´t agree also this. You can easily say then that Jethro has always been just solo project of Ian Anderson.

Mortte wrote: charles_ryder wrote: VDGG is the solo project of Peter Hammill imho. I like it, but the band (like Genesis) is something more than one man and some good musicians (like VDGG). Don´t agree also this. You can easily say then that Jethro has always been just solo project of Ian Anderson.

As much as I love VDGG, Genesis is the clear winner here.

Mortte wrote: I prophesy disaster wrote: To be honest, I've always thought Genesis was a poor man's Van der Graaf Generator. Have to say this is very ridicilous claim. Not ever also will say Van Der Graaf poor men´s Genesis. They´re just so different. But anyway I really like Van Der Graaf, but it´s not even the near of the greatness of Genesis.

One "ridicilous" claim followed by another, I'm afraid. Both achieved their own level of greatness to adequately rival one another (early on, in fact, it was the Vans who were setting the bar).

Dellinger wrote: I prophesy disaster wrote: To be honest, I've always thought Genesis was a poor man's Van der Graaf Generator. I guess most people would think it the other way around.

I prophesy disaster wrote: Dellinger wrote: I prophesy disaster wrote: To be honest, I've always thought Genesis was a poor man's Van der Graaf Generator. I guess most people would think it the other way around.   Then they would be wrong because Genesis is the better known group whose music is easier to obtain and more accessible.

Thank you, Captain Hyperbole.

^^ Really? By far??

^ If someone doesn't like the rating thing, then why is he checking out the polls section of a forum? However, yeah, in an idealistic way of seeing it, it seems ugly and whatever, but it's really very useful to get to know new bands. You have to start somewhere, and there's so much available that you can't just listen to all and decide which you like better to start with. So you check lists, rankings, polls, whatever to have somewhere to start.

Bump from ancient past with a vote to VdGG. 

So many Genesis vs. polls, but I have tended to do such things too much with some of my favourites (i.e. Cardiacs, Swans, Magma, Art Zoyd, Area, Comus, Cos, VdGG, Stereolab etc. -- some much more than others).

VdGG for sure. The The Least We Can Do..., H to He...., and Pawn Hearts trilogy of album is incredible. The search for an album (especially for hearing "Hairless Heart" which I still really love) I heard at a bar which turned out to be The Lamb... may be most important to my deeper Prog journey, and that may have led to me discovering VdGG, but VdGG, which I discovered about 20 years ago, is the one that remained way more relevant and interesting to my tastes. I rarely play Genesis now even though I used to love plenty of 70s Genesis. Even by the time I had joined this site I would rarely listen to Genesis any longer as I had discovered a lot of music that excited and entranced me more. And "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" is so fantastic and nothing negative that Micky says about it will dissuade me. "Darkness" was another fave of mine. I started with hearing tracks rather than full albums. My first loves were "House with No Door" and "Man-erg".