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Posted: February 01 2017 at 21:06
I got some UK because of my love for King Crimson (including ofcourse the Wetton era) and the high praise I have read for the debut. However, I'm afraid I ended up greatly dissapointed. First I got the Live in Boston album, which also includes a few songs from Danger Money, but with the original line-up, then I thought to give it another chance and got the first one... but still it didn't do much for me. There's indeed some music I like and enjoy, but nothing close to the greatness of King Crimson.
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Posted: February 01 2017 at 22:24
^ Except the UK project had nothing to do with Crimson, in fact it sounds intentionally redirected and non-Crmsonian. And the live releases are hit & miss, generally disappointing unless you're already a big fan.
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Posted: February 02 2017 at 00:24
Never liked Danger Money. But then I'm a big Holdsworth fan. Just listened to UK tonight and focused on JW's parts. His vocal intro on 30 Years is absolutely haunting.
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Posted: February 02 2017 at 01:30
Danger Money (to me) is one of the worst albums ever made.
The debut album has this great fusion interplay, great drumming, great guitar, violin and synthwork. Good songwriting.
Danger Money had only Rendez Vous 6.02 wich was kind of okay. The rest of the album is so over the top, it hurts my ears. I am not a fan of Wetton's voice and not a fan of his bassplaying (wich is just mediocre) and not a fan of Terry Bozzio.
Terry is the kind of drummer I kind stand to listen to. He has a total lack of groove, dynamics and feel. It's just pompous thrashmetal drumming. And Wetton can't play a nice bassline. It's a just low register simple riffing.
The only thing about Danger Money that's okayish is Eddie Jobson, wich electric violin sounds like a heavy metalguitar sometimes. But his Green Album is much, much better.
The debut was great because of Bruford and Holdsworth. I was wondering how great UK would sound without Wetton's voice and with better bassplaying (maybe Chris Squire)...
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Posted: February 02 2017 at 10:03
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Posted: February 02 2017 at 10:37
U.K. and Danger Money are such different animals, it's kind of like comparing Tangerine Dream's Stratosfear to Force Majeure. Both are distinct works that scratch different itches and it's perfectly acceptable to like both equally for their own merits.
That said, I do prefer Danger Money because I'm a nut for the keyboard-led prog power trio format. They lost two guys, got another drummer, and sort of went "Yo! ELP! Two can play that game!" And then they recorded one of my favorite albums. It's got balls to spare. Just like ELP consisted of three of the best guys you could collect in that format, so was U.K. Mk. II.
As for the comment that Wetton's a mediocre bass player...
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Posted: February 08 2017 at 06:01
Debut - Leaning heavily towards a 'Fusion' style which was more of a contemporary prog approach for the time.
Danger Money - Leaning heavily towards ELP influenced keyboard driven prog as ELP had given up by this time and there was a large space to fill (UK did actually admit this!).
I prefer the second album taste-wise although I think the debut is a stronger album overall. Both are pretty great. Such a shame that Wetton and Jobson fell out and we only got the 2 albums.
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Posted: February 08 2017 at 07:47
richardh wrote:
I prefer the second album taste-wise although I think the debut is a stronger album overall. Both are pretty great. Such a shame that Wetton and Jobson fell out and we only got the 2 albums.
The falling out was sickening. There is the recent remaster package which includes a full version of the live album Night After Night, remastered boots and the reunion album, as well as various extras. Really, the crowning glory is the remastered Danger Money as it sounds as good as my old Polydor Deluxe vinyl. When Will You Realise is on the DM extras disc.
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