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Posted: January 24 2021 at 07:23
dr wu23 wrote:
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yeah, this was funny as f**k! But Maher's last show was bad. He had an anti BLM anti Democrat guest on and Maher kissed his ass in an attempt to be more inclusive. It was pathetic. And to make it worse, the dude was black. He could have pushed back a bit on the guy. What's next? QAnon members?
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Posted: January 23 2021 at 19:38
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From some comments above it seems there are two assumptions being made that I find too early to be made: One, that Biden is stopping the pipeline but doing nothing about fracking, and two, that he won't be emphasising renewable energy development.
It's only been a few days.
Well, precisely since it's only been a few days, the optics are terrible. Don't you think he could have waited to line up a big ticket renewable energy project before scrapping the pipeline? What was the tearing hurry to cancel it? I am surprised and somehow to me, this suggests it is already a Kamala Harris Presidency and he is preparing her for the inevitable transition. Because I don't believe Biden's own political instincts could be so bad.
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Posted: January 23 2021 at 15:11
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SteveG wrote:
npjnpj wrote:
From some comments above it seems there are two assumptions being made that I find too early to be made: One, that Biden is stopping the pipeline but doing nothing about fracking, and two, that he won't be emphasising renewable energy development.
It's only been a few days.
Biden cant do much about fracking. That was in place long before Trump, but we were just discussing which was worse and not assuming what he will or will not do next. We're many things but psychic we're not. Well, I'm not but I don't know for sure about Friede.
Don't worry about that. I am only psychic with Jean; we two have an almost symbiotic relationship. It is sometimes even spooky for us how well we read the other's mind.
I can't say that I'm surprised. I bet that you two complete each other's sentences.
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Posted: January 23 2021 at 13:16
SteveG wrote:
npjnpj wrote:
From some comments above it seems there are two assumptions being made that I find too early to be made: One, that Biden is stopping the pipeline but doing nothing about fracking, and two, that he won't be emphasising renewable energy development.
It's only been a few days.
Biden cant do much about fracking. That was in place long before Trump, but we were just discussing which was worse and not assuming what he will or will not do next. We're many things but psychic we're not. Well, I'm not but I don't know for sure about Friede.
Don't worry about that. I am only psychic with Jean; we two have an almost symbiotic relationship. It is sometimes even spooky for us how well we read the other's mind.
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Posted: January 23 2021 at 12:20
npjnpj wrote:
From some comments above it seems there are two assumptions being made that I find too early to be made: One, that Biden is stopping the pipeline but doing nothing about fracking, and two, that he won't be emphasising renewable energy development.
It's only been a few days.
Biden cant do much about fracking. That was in place long before Trump, but we were just discussing which was worse and not assuming what he will or will not do next. We're many things but psychic we're not. Well, I'm not but I don't know for sure about Friede.
Edited by SteveG - January 23 2021 at 12:23
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Posted: January 23 2021 at 10:55
npjnpj wrote:
From some comments above it seems there are two assumptions being made that I find too early to be made: One, that Biden is stopping the pipeline but doing nothing about fracking, and two, that he won't be emphasising renewable energy development.
It's only been a few days.
I didn't say anything like that. I merely pointed out what in my opinion is important.
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Posted: January 23 2021 at 10:18
From some comments above it seems there are two assumptions being made that I find too early to be made: One, that Biden is stopping the pipeline but doing nothing about fracking, and two, that he won't be emphasising renewable energy development.
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Posted: January 23 2021 at 09:44
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kenethlevine wrote:
Why is it that people like me with no children care so much about the environmental catastrophe while those family values people who have children only care about the here and now. Discuss
The simple answer Ken is that people with children are concerned with keeping food on the table at the moment. Big families cost big money and I think that keeps big family parents firmly focused on the here and now. Also, diching the Buckeye Pipeline also ditches jobs. Something we don't need right now. Or ever.
There is some truth to that but a lot of the people who care least are very rich
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Posted: January 23 2021 at 09:15
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^ The paperwork, devising poliltical moves and stuff sure demand some serious work, but I was talking about the polilticians that are like the "front men" of the agendas. I firmly believe that they don't have to work that much. We are always seeing Erdoğan in Turkey. Most/some are "addicted" to it, taking either pleasure or pain of his, like, ever presence. Really, nobody actually "needs" that.
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Posted: January 23 2021 at 09:12
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Why is it that people like me with no children care so much about the environmental catastrophe while those family values people who have children only care about the here and now. Discuss
The simple answer Ken is that people with children are concerned with keeping food on the table at the moment. Big families cost big money and I think that keeps big family parents firmly focused on the here and now. Also, diching the Keystone Pipeline also ditches jobs. Something we don't need right now. Or ever.
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Posted: January 23 2021 at 09:10
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^ The "problem" you're mentioning about is directly related to politics being "occupations" where people are doing their jobs. And people always strive for keeping their place in this regard, normally; as any person who doesn't like to lose his/her job.
My solution is that being a politician should be like a "2nd job"; thus they'll not that much fear of losing their only one. Plus, being a politician obviously doesn't call for that much time and effort. You can easily "rule", spending 2-3 days a week.
I am afraid that I disagree with your last sentence vehemently. You see, there is one thing that people across the western world absolutely misunderstand about modern government.
Over the past six decades, after the post-war period, government has become more and more centralised. Power has been stripped from local municipalities, and placed in the hands of the executive.
Given the fact that you are ruling entire countries, it is most certainly not possible to do it in 2-3 days per week. If only.......we might then be spared some of the shocking calamities inflicted upon us.
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Posted: January 23 2021 at 09:06
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lazland wrote:
Steve, that last post is absolutely spot on the money. Short termism is the bane of most political decisions inflicted upon us, and it is also, of course, the most human trait they have. Most people can’t think beyond next week, let alone 50 years time. That takes a true visionary, and they are, alas, in very short supply.
Sadly true indeed. Perhaps there should be an aptitude test for anyone who wants to be a politician. Anyone who fails at it would automatically be disqualified from ever taking any political office.
Well, most people would argue that there is an aptitude test for politicians. They are called elections, but I do have some sympathy with what you are saying.
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Posted: January 23 2021 at 09:04
Why is it that people like me with no children care so much about the environmental catastrophe while those family values people who have children only care about the here and now. Discuss
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^ The "problem" you're mentioning about is directly related to politics being "occupations" where people are doing their jobs. And people always strive for keeping their place in this regard, normally; as any person who doesn't like to lose his/her job.
My solution is that being a politician should be like a "2nd job"; thus they'll not that much fear of losing their only one. Plus, being a politician obviously doesn't call for that much time and effort. You can easily "rule", spending 2-3 days a week.
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dr wu23 wrote:
yeah, this was funny as f**k! But Maher's last show was bad. He had an anti BLM anti Democrat guest on and Maher kissed his ass in an attempt to be more inclusive. It was pathetic. And to make it worse, the dude was black. He could have pushed back a bit on the guy. What's next? QAnon members?
