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frankbostick
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Posted: February 20 2017 at 08:54 |
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someone_else
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Posted: February 20 2017 at 05:48 |
No-Brainer Salad Surgery.
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Thatfabulousalien
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Posted: February 20 2017 at 02:28 |
Despite my extreme love for contemporary classical music and virtuoso prog, they where never a band I got much out of
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Classical music isn't dead, it's more alive than it's ever been. It's just not on MTV.
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richardh
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Posted: February 20 2017 at 01:54 |
BSS was their peak imo. Very smart choice to open up with Jerusalem containing lyrics that illustrate the album's motif really well (technology taking over) . Toccata is almost my favourite track in prog (I have to give that to Gates Of Delirium) and then you have that typical ELP light and dark contract with Still ..You Turn Me On. Dodgy lyric aside its still a lovely melody and production. Then we have 2 minutes of 'space' which acts as a sort of interlude ( ok not strictly true ) before the sci fi epic theatre of KE9 . Now I have to admit this works better on the live album and I take into consideration the thin production but the amazing ensemble playing of all three is still something to behold. The others are all 4 star efforts with parts that I really don't care for. The debut does though lay out their 'agenda' and does have that nice grainy feel to it. Tarkus in its studio form kinda bores me a little nowadays compared to the kick ass live version. Trilogy is extremely well rounded and probably has Lake's best lyrics but maybe lacks the fluency they achieved with BSS.
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hellogoodbye
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Posted: February 20 2017 at 01:26 |
First one and Tarkus. No more.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: February 19 2017 at 19:51 |
dr prog wrote:
They got weaker by the album |
I would say that was especially true after BSS. The first four are all pretty top notch imo.
As someone said earlier, the title track to tarkus is the best on the album. However, I wouldn't say the rest of the album is crap. There are certainly some good moments such as "infinite space."
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dr prog
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Posted: February 19 2017 at 19:30 |
They got weaker by the album
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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: February 19 2017 at 13:34 |
I voted for the debut. After that the most consistent is probably Trilogy. I actually really like BSS but what brings it down for me is that that parts of it are just too repetitive. The first part just repeats the "welcome back my friends thing" to many times. It would be ok if it wasn't repeated again in the second movement(the part you hear on the radio). It's just like how many times do they have to beat that to death? I get it the friends are welcomed back to the never ending show. Unfortunately for ELP the show ended a long time ago well before the recent passing of two of it's main ingredients. A great band nonetheless.
Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - February 19 2017 at 20:00
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JD
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Posted: February 19 2017 at 12:32 |
My fav band of all time (I'm sure I've expressed that...oh, about a million times here) but over the years I've come to the understand that Trilogy is really my favourite of favourites.
Debut at #2, Tarkus at #3, BSS at #4.
While I like the music of BSS better than Tarkus, I was always a little disappointment at the production. I find it lacks the guts and raw sound that the first three had and I always felt that was an important part of the ELP experience.
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Tapfret
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Posted: February 19 2017 at 03:19 |
Like them all but the debut is the best.
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mechanicalflattery
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Posted: February 18 2017 at 17:56 |
The debut is the only one that's consistently tolerable, win by default
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DeadSouls
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Posted: February 18 2017 at 17:50 |
Debut followed by Tarkus.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: February 18 2017 at 16:32 |
Sean Trane wrote:
the debut, than Pictures (may as well consider it a studio album, IMHO)
Tarkus is only worthy for the sidelong tt Trolligy is a hit & miss and BSS is a total bore
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I thought about including it but I felt I also would have had to include the triple live album WBMFTTSTNEL&G which I have never heard. I wanted to keep it as simple as possisble.
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Wanorak
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Posted: February 18 2017 at 14:28 |
BSS, their masterpiece imo.
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A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!!
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verslibre
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Posted: February 18 2017 at 10:12 |
ELP's awesome. Everything up through BSS should be in every prog lover's collection. "Karn Evil 9" was so ahead of its time...
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digdug
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Posted: February 18 2017 at 10:10 |
all are awesome but I have to go with
the debut
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Prog On!
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Modrigue
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Posted: February 18 2017 at 08:08 |
Tarkus, then Trilogy, then ELP, then BSS for me
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O666
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Posted: February 18 2017 at 07:57 |
I "LOVE" them all.
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TeleStrat
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Posted: February 18 2017 at 07:10 |
Normally I would not have voted but since "I don't care for ELP" was an option...
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micky
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Posted: February 18 2017 at 06:52 |
In terms of personal choices. the debut, Tarkus, BSS, Trilogy.
IN terms of how I see them objectively... Trilogy, Tarkus, the debut, BSS.
BSS would have been higher on both, but for having the most ghastly of all the Lake ballads, and pulling a APoLK on the title track and ruining a otherwise brilliant track by not shortening it. That last impression, though it doesn't suck as badly or induce blood flowing from the ears as the last half of APoLK did, still finishes flat from its absolutely killer first impressions.
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