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mechanicalflattery 
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 Posted: February 24 2017 at 21:50 |
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I think Micky pointed to Neu! as ahead of their time, but I'd point to Kraftwerk's first album as a more groundbreaking (if notably inferior) ancestor to Neu! and most krautrock. Phallus Dei and TD's Electronic Meditations would be up there as well. I do concur that most prog isn't necessarily ahead of its time, but merely of its time.
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KingCrInuYasha
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Posted: February 24 2017 at 23:02 |
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One word: Red. Still hard to imagine that was recorded in 1974.
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Posted: February 25 2017 at 01:37 |
 Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Henry Cow - Western CultureCaptain Beefheart - Trout Mask Replica Univers Zero - 1313 Tangerine Dream - Zeit Comus - First Utterance Tony Conrad with Faust - Outside The Dreamscape Amon Duul II - Phallus Dei
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 add a Magma album, and I'll second your list
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Mascodagama
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Posted: February 25 2017 at 03:32 |
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To add:
Roxy Music - s/t, 1972
Brian Eno - Discreet Music, 1975
Aksak Maboul - Onze Danses, 1977
This Heat - s/t, 1979
John Zorn - The Big Gundown, 1985
Last Exit - Iron Path, 1988
Talk Talk - Spirit of Eden, 1988
Edited by Mascodagama - February 25 2017 at 03:35
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Thatfabulousalien
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Posted: February 25 2017 at 03:53 |
Mascodagama wrote:
To add:
John Zorn - The Big Gundown, 1985
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..........but that's a covers album..........
I agree on This Heat though
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Classical music isn't dead, it's more alive than it's ever been. It's just not on MTV.
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Kepler62
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Posted: February 25 2017 at 04:03 |
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I'll go with that but I guess to be on safe side we can say that prog albums that were " Of their time ". Not before or after their time. but you would have to include every prog album ever made and then we would get back to the old "what is prog?" discussion. 
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Posted: February 25 2017 at 04:10 |
Thatfabulousalien wrote:
Mascodagama wrote:
To add:
John Zorn - The Big Gundown, 1985
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..........but that's a covers album..........
I agree on This Heat though |
But it's all about what you do with it....?
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Posted: February 25 2017 at 04:22 |
I agree with the NEU! and Amon Düül ll debuts. I'll add: Faust - IV Terry Riley - In C Stomu Yamash'ta - Red Buddha Klaus Schulze - Irrlicht Popol Vuh - In den Gärten Pharaos Throbbing Gristle - The Second Annual Report Area - Arbeit Macht Frei Magma - MDK Igor Wakhevitch - Logos Björn J:Son Lindh - Från Storstad Til Grodspad Ash Ra Tempel - s/t Current 93 - Dogs Blood Rising Ulver - Bergtätt Holger Czukay - Canaxis Komintern - Le Bal Du Rat Mort The Taj Mahal Travellers - Pick an album Aktuala - s/t Jean-Claude Vannier - L'Enfant Assassin Des Mouches (Hey Fabulous Alien!! Do you know this one?) Edit: I'm not sure I'd call most of these albums 'Prog' though...but they're all featured within our database 
Edited by Guldbamsen - February 25 2017 at 05:58
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Posted: February 25 2017 at 04:29 |
KingCrInuYasha wrote:
One word: Red. Still hard to imagine that was recorded in 1974.
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I struggle to hear what Red brought to the table that wasn't already done on Sharks' Lungs and Bible Black. To me the former is by far the album I'd pick for this thread.
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Posted: February 25 2017 at 06:16 |
Steven Wilson - The Raven That Refused To Sing Steven Wilson - Hand.Cannot.Erase Riverside - Second Life Syndrome Pain Of Salvation - The Perfect Element Part 1 Steven Wilson - Grace For Drowning Pain Of Salvation - Remedy Lane Adele - 25
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Magma America Great Make Again
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bloodnarfer
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Posted: February 25 2017 at 06:33 |
zravkapt wrote:
Steven Wilson - The Raven That Refused To SingSteven Wilson - Hand.Cannot.Erase Riverside - Second Life Syndrome Pain Of Salvation - The Perfect Element Part 1 Steven Wilson - Grace For Drowning Pain Of Salvation - Remedy Lane Adele - 25
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ROFL
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Rednight
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Posted: February 25 2017 at 10:05 |
KingCrInuYasha wrote:
One word: Red. Still hard to imagine that was recorded in 1974.
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No, '74-ish is about right. My pick is Sgt. Pepper's!
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HosiannaMantra
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Posted: February 25 2017 at 10:32 |
Colosseum - Valentyne Suite Silver Apples - Silver Apples United States of America - The United States of America Maneige - Maneige Soft Machine - Volume Two Popol Vuh - Hosianna Mantra Oregon - Music of Another Present Era
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mechanicalflattery
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Posted: February 25 2017 at 11:17 |
HosiannaMantra wrote:
Colosseum - Valentyne SuiteSilver Apples - Silver Apples United States of America - The United States of America Maneige - Maneige Soft Machine - Volume Two Popol Vuh - Hosianna Mantra Oregon - Music of Another Present Era |
Props for choosing genuinely innovative, ahead of their time albums instead of just listing albums you like.
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Posted: February 25 2017 at 11:35 |
CapnBearbossa wrote:
^^ In a similar spirit, I'd nominate Larks' Tongues in Aspic by King Crimson (1973)
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Kepler62
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Posted: February 25 2017 at 16:35 |
You guys are just talking about albums that were a bit different when they came out. If anything that was "ahead of it's time' then that was Star Trek. It envisaged , big flat screen TVs, cell phones wireless ear pieces etc. I can't see how music can be ahead of it's time without a time machine. Maybe Nikola Tesla was ahead of his time. Galileo was ahead of his time that's why the church locked him up. Copernicus was ahead of his time with his postulation on the rotation of spheres.
I guess if Mozart wrote 21st Century Schizoid Man back in the 1700s then it would be ahead of it's time.
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Posted: February 25 2017 at 17:21 |
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HackettFan
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Posted: February 25 2017 at 19:06 |
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Applying the highest standards, I don't think there's much that is ahead of its time for a whole album. Freak Out! would be one, but going by albums is the wrong measure. I think genuine advances come in glimpses and found in all sorts of places. Hackett's two-handed tapping, for example, was very specifically ahead of its time, but that came in brief spurts.
Hot Rats I perhaps might concede at the right time rather than ahead of its time, nevertheless, I would call it ahead of the curve. In addition, it seems to me that some works may be so unique that they never have a time to be ahead of.
Edited by HackettFan - February 25 2017 at 19:10
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Lewian
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Posted: February 27 2017 at 06:34 |
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No Can album between Delay 1968 and Soon Over Babaluma would sound anachronistic these days. Holger Czukay's Canaxis and Movies were stunningly innovative and he did stuff "ahead of the time" as late as 2000.
Listening to quite a bit of avantgarde music from the meditative side, I've also started to appreciate Tangerine Dream's Zeit as ahead of its time (!) more and more.
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Posted: February 28 2017 at 07:13 |
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I'll also add Cluster's "Zuckerzeit"
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