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    Posted: March 06 2017 at 05:27
I have this theory, that if news media didn't carry a bias one way or another, hardly anyone would watch/read it. Surely, a fact is a fact right? Well even before we OFFICIALLY entered this age of 'Fake news' and 'alternative facts' all news reportage was biased towards the liberal or the conservative to varying degrees.

I believe that many people of either persuasion, are less interested in facts and more interested in having their own beliefs validated by journalists who share their perspective, believing that seeing their own views in black and white somehow 'proves' their perspective to be the correct one.

In the UK, the BBC is often accused of having either a pro Israeli bias or a pro Palestinian bias, underlining the idea that people see bias where they choose to see it. For some, even reporting on an issue at all is an indicator of some kind of bias. Some say that of the great immigration debate we're supposedly 'not allowed' to have, and yet seem to be having it 24/7....

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2017 at 07:00
Very interesting and relevant video below. The relevant point is towards the end of the video, but the whole thing is worth watching.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBVV8pch1dM


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2017 at 08:38
No people, let alone the media, isn't biased. There is some intrinsic bias in everything that's reported. The bad thing is when the bias allows actual falsehoods and truly fake news to be broadcast as news. Here in the US for example, Fox News is the paragon of bias, but I wouldn't say they normally go for complete falsehoods or outrageous fake news. I hate Fox News but they are a biased network for biased people. I have my own biases. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2017 at 09:43
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

No people, let alone the media, isn't biased. There is some intrinsic bias in everything that's reported. The bad thing is when the bias allows actual falsehoods and truly fake news to be broadcast as news. Here in the US for example, Fox News is the paragon of bias, but I wouldn't say they normally go for complete falsehoods or outrageous fake news. I hate Fox News but they are a biased network for biased people. I have my own biases. 




I would say we all have our own biases, but you do you not think that news as a commercial concept has target audiences and customer bases as any other industries do.

You could argue, I guess that news merely supplies a pre-existing demand created by peoples inherent biases. Or is it the other way round? Chicken and egg etc..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2017 at 12:26
When I was in my country of origin, news were pretty much impartial. They just really informed what happened during the day. but now I think even that has its own bias. It's not like you can put 23459327501 things in a news cast. You have to prioritize. Even if you only inform of events and facts, the evens and facts that you choose to inform about are already a form of bias. 

Yes, i agree, especially in the US, news networks have target audiences and they cater to them. And it further isolates us. Me for example, never, ever, ever even surf through the FoxNews channel anymore. I just can't stand it. And when CNN acts too neutral for my interests, I tend to only end in MSNBC even though it's far from a liberal/lefty paradise. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2017 at 13:00
Anything that has a sponsorship is prone to the bias of the one paying the bills. The fundamental virtue of capitalism, incentive, is also its fundamental flaw. Incentive trumps ethics. I would say very few media outlets or individual journalists set out with anything other than the purist intentions to just report the facts, but there is always going to be that shortcut to profit. I feel like it is always the eventual path for the corporate parent. It is rote.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2017 at 14:32
Yes, as all biases are nearly impossible to eradicate, even with the noblest of intentions. The best we can expect is a media with almost  no bias.
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From Yes Prime Minister, this is the ultimate guide to British newspapers pandering to the prejudices of their readership:

Hacker: Don't tell me about the press. I know exactly who reads the papers. The Daily Mirror is read by people who think they run the country; The Guardian is read by people who think they ought to run the country; The Times is read by the people who actually do run the country; the Daily Mail is read by the wives of the people who run the country; the Financial Times is read by people who own the country; the Morning Star is read by people who think the country ought to be run by another country, and the Daily Telegraph is read by people who think it is.

Sir Humphrey: Prime Minister, what about the people who read The Sun?

Bernard: Sun readers don't care who runs the country, as long as she's got big tits.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2017 at 16:25
Nothing you ever read anywhere from any source will ever be accurate, and information must always be seen through that lens of uncertainty.   This is why independent thinking is so crucial; you're just as likely to be correct as anyone else.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2017 at 20:24
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

you're just as likely to be correct as anyone else.


Unless you are really stupid, ... which applies to a lot of people.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2017 at 20:30
^ True, or really evil.   But that fact shouldn't dissuade self-generated analysis, foolish or dangerous as those observations may be.   Better that than a cowed and sheepish population.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2017 at 01:01
...better to be cowed and sheepish than goosed and pigish. LOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2017 at 01:11


When you know and understand the bias then you can interpret it accordingly.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2017 at 03:24
^^^ Mother Jones should be in that far left column. They have articles like "Peanut butter and jelly sandwiches are racist" and "Eating three meals a day is racist"

They are as frothing at the mouth as Alex Jones is on the far right.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2017 at 04:09
I don't care. News are the lowest form of entertainment.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2017 at 07:47
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

^^^ Mother Jones should be in that far left column. They have articles like "Peanut butter and jelly sandwiches are racist" and "Eating three meals a day is racist"

They are as frothing at the mouth as Alex Jones is on the far right.


Those aren't real articles, they are just something you made up.
Now where is the bias?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2017 at 07:58
Originally posted by js (Easy Money) js (Easy Money) wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

^^^ Mother Jones should be in that far left column. They have articles like "Peanut butter and jelly sandwiches are racist" and "Eating three meals a day is racist"

They are as frothing at the mouth as Alex Jones is on the far right.


Those aren't real articles, they are just something you made up.
Now where is the bias?
the PBJ probably is but the "Eating three meals a day is racist" isn't:  [www.motherjones.com/environment/2015/03/against-meals-breakfast-lunch-dinnerWacko
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2017 at 08:25
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by js (Easy Money) js (Easy Money) wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

^^^ Mother Jones should be in that far left column. They have articles like "Peanut butter and jelly sandwiches are racist" and "Eating three meals a day is racist"

They are as frothing at the mouth as Alex Jones is on the far right.


Those aren't real articles, they are just something you made up.
Now where is the bias?

the PBJ probably is but the "Eating three meals a day is racist" isn't:  [www.motherjones.com/environment/2015/03/against-meals-breakfast-lunch-dinnerWacko


The peanut butter article is also real, but it may not have been MJ. It was an example of that type of article in that publication.

Edit: It was Huff post -

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A school principal declared the snack favourite potentially racist. Her comments were mocked by bloggers etc, and I think it later went round in right wing news sources that the school was banning the sandwich, which wasn't actually true, as verified by Snopes.

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