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Posted: March 10 2017 at 11:21
Logan wrote:
My favourite Yes album, which is odd, is Time and a Word, but the Yes album is my second favouite. Fragile is what got me into Yes, and I do still like that album very much. Lizard is my favourite KC album these days, and I also love Islands which tends to not be that appreciated.
I actually like Verhoeven's Starship Troopers adaptation a lot. For me it works pretty well as satire. It's cartoonish and the characters lack depth, but I found it genuinely quite funny as pastiche, and I really like how the propaganda elements are worked into it.
Time and a Word and The Yes Album are also my personal favourites, I think it's mostly because Squire's bass is more prominent then usual on both.
Got to agree with you again, some people take it very seriously
Oh, and I voted for Lizard, it's out of this world
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Posted: March 10 2017 at 10:54
Have done some fixes, Socrates. The dailymotion embed can cause problems -- I have no problems with my laptop, but on other devices it's different. And soon you should be able to vote. I favour write-in posts and votes more than actual poll votes, and usually only use polls as an accessory to discussion. My favourite Yes album, which is odd, is Time and a Word, but the Yes album is my second favouite. Fragile is what got me into Yes, and I do still like that album very much. Lizard is my favourite KC album these days, and I also love Islands which tends to not be that appreciated.
Guldbamsen wrote:
I really dig both tracks but am currently in more of a wacky music mode, which translates into Lizard in this poll. Love the confusion leading up to Prince Rupert.
Oh and don't get me started on Starship Troopers! Yikes... I still find it hard to get my head around the fact that Verhoeven went from a brilliant run of European made movies to the utter sh*te he suddenly started producing in Hollywood. Even his wonderful understanding of actors and how best to use them according to the specific scene went south. My personal opinion on this is that he suffered a small stroke on his way to America and subsequently lost all sense of quality and edge. Most often though you'll see talented directors get back on their feet after such tomfoolery (like De Toro after Blade ll for instance....but yeah errm Hollow Man
Showgirls though was good in a 'it's ok for dad to watch this flick because it isn't porn even if it's used for the exact same thing-way'.
I actually like Verhoeven's Starship Troopers adaptation a lot. For me it works pretty well as satire. It's cartoonish and the characters lack depth, but I found it genuinely quite funny as pastiche, and I really like how the propaganda elements are worked into it.
Some people complain because it's so different from the book, but it's not a favourite Heinlein of mine anyway (unlike the marvelous Stranger in a Strange Land which I totally grok).
I liked Verhoeven's Black Book (Zwartboek) from 2006 considerably, which marked his return to Dutch film-making. Showgirls I found so boring, and not even titillating despite the t**s. Still, I guess I can be glad that von Trier is afraid of flying, as he may have suffered in his film-making. Now there's a North-western European guy who can "exploit" nudity pretty well.
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Posted: March 10 2017 at 09:18
I'm still not authorized to vote, alas. I love Lizard. In fact, I love the entire album, which tends to be underappreciated even by rabid KC fans. (I write that as a self-confessed, card carrying, rabid KC fan.) So, it's Lizard for the win. I do like Starship Troopers, though. Although not a huge fan of Yes, I particularly enjoy The Yes Album & Fragile. I saw them on the Fragile tour twice within 3 days in February 1972 - once at the Academy of Music and once at Sunshine Inn in Asbury Park. They were still doing Starship Troopers with Wakeman and IIRC it was pretty damn hot.
Two side notes:
1/I vaguely think I remember seeing Yes once when they were at the bottom of the bill. Was it one of those shows or did I see them a 3rd time or did I dream it?
2/Dunno if this is the fault of Windows 10 (don't blame me, it came with the computer) or if the clips were posted that way, but autoplay videos often crash my laptop, which is a 2 year old Dell, however much I enjoy the music. I had to reboot with no other tabs open before I could post this comment.
I really dig both tracks but am currently in more of a wacky music mode, which translates into Lizard in this poll. Love the confusion leading up to Prince Rupert.
Oh and don't get me started on Starship Troopers! Yikes... I still find it hard to get my head around the fact that Verhoeven went from a brilliant run of European made movies to the utter sh*te he suddenly started producing in Hollywood. Even his wonderful understanding of actors and how best to use them according to the specific scene went south. My personal opinion on this is that he suffered a small stroke on his way to America and subsequently lost all sense of quality and edge. Most often though you'll see talented directors get back on their feet after such tomfoolery (like De Toro after Blade ll for instance....but yeah errm Hollow Man
Showgirls though was good in a 'it's ok for dad to watch this flick because it isn't porn even if it's used for the exact same thing-way'.
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
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Posted: March 10 2017 at 07:33
It bugs me, bugs, Starship Troopers, get it?, that I misnamed the Yes song in both the poll and the topic title, but I don't feel like editing it. Heinlein and the Verhoeven film on the brain (of course Anderson was aware of the novel and inspired by it).
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Posted: March 09 2017 at 10:30
Gottsa go with the leezard here.
Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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