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^ A prequel to The Naked and the Dead?
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Originally posted by Polymorphia Polymorphia wrote:

Yeah, SM's. Part of it seems to do with the way it was recorded. It just feels very dull and energy-less even though that probably wasn't the case with the performances.

Also, pertaining O'Rourke and Ambarchi, Behold is neat.

No doubt third is recording like sh*t. A huge shame since the music is so fascinating (to me at least). I wish there was a way to clean it up but all the 'remastered' versions still sound notgreat at best. I suspect it's the best it can be.

And I haven't heard Behold, but I assume I would enjoy it. 

I actually love the muddiness of Third, just like I love the muddiness of Bitches Brew. I guess I don't like my fusion shiny.

Or new...

I'm probably strange in the fact that I don't think that I've ever thought that a recording has benefited from being poorly recorded...and I've certainly never wanted them that way. Even old school harsh black metal tyhpe stuff I wish was recorded with clarity. 
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Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Originally posted by Polymorphia Polymorphia wrote:

Yeah, SM's. Part of it seems to do with the way it was recorded. It just feels very dull and energy-less even though that probably wasn't the case with the performances.

Also, pertaining O'Rourke and Ambarchi, Behold is neat.

No doubt third is recording like sh*t. A huge shame since the music is so fascinating (to me at least). I wish there was a way to clean it up but all the 'remastered' versions still sound notgreat at best. I suspect it's the best it can be.

And I haven't heard Behold, but I assume I would enjoy it. 

I actually love the muddiness of Third, just like I love the muddiness of Bitches Brew. I guess I don't like my fusion shiny.

Or new...

I'm probably strange in the fact that I don't think that I've ever thought that a recording has benefited from being poorly recorded...and I've certainly never wanted them that way. Even old school harsh black metal tyhpe stuff I wish was recorded with clarity. 
But then you would hear how bad it sounds.
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Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Originally posted by Polymorphia Polymorphia wrote:

Yeah, SM's. Part of it seems to do with the way it was recorded. It just feels very dull and energy-less even though that probably wasn't the case with the performances.

Also, pertaining O'Rourke and Ambarchi, Behold is neat.

No doubt third is recording like sh*t. A huge shame since the music is so fascinating (to me at least). I wish there was a way to clean it up but all the 'remastered' versions still sound notgreat at best. I suspect it's the best it can be.

And I haven't heard Behold, but I assume I would enjoy it. 

I actually love the muddiness of Third, just like I love the muddiness of Bitches Brew. I guess I don't like my fusion shiny.

Or new...

I'm probably strange in the fact that I don't think that I've ever thought that a recording has benefited from being poorly recorded...and I've certainly never wanted them that way. Even old school harsh black metal tyhpe stuff I wish was recorded with clarity. 
But then you would hear how bad it sounds.

True. But I want to hear the music when I listen to music. If it's sh*t, well i'd like to know it. (I Mean ok, sure, most of that black metal stuff is sh*t, but you know what I mean)
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oh dear hello gaybe, sorry postponing our project type sh*t man, it's busy times y'know, and transitional ones

ah whatever, it's like a 40% chance he even comes back to read this

Transitional ones for me too. Don't sweat it. 
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Originally posted by Polymorphia Polymorphia wrote:

Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Originally posted by Polymorphia Polymorphia wrote:

Yeah, SM's. Part of it seems to do with the way it was recorded. It just feels very dull and energy-less even though that probably wasn't the case with the performances.

Also, pertaining O'Rourke and Ambarchi, Behold is neat.


No doubt third is recording like sh*t. A huge shame since the music is so fascinating (to me at least). I wish there was a way to clean it up but all the 'remastered' versions still sound notgreat at best. I suspect it's the best it can be.

And I haven't heard Behold, but I assume I would enjoy it. 

I actually love the muddiness of Third, just like I love the muddiness of Bitches Brew. I guess I don't like my fusion shiny. 

Or new...
I do like Bitches Brew and tend to dislike shiny fusion but BB is not nearly as muddy (or polite).

Man the early 90's CBS Jazz Masterpieces CD of BB I own sounds real lo-fi. Has it received better treatment in more recent years, or is my CD edition out of a bad batch?


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Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

Originally posted by Polymorphia Polymorphia wrote:

Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Originally posted by Polymorphia Polymorphia wrote:

Yeah, SM's. Part of it seems to do with the way it was recorded. It just feels very dull and energy-less even though that probably wasn't the case with the performances.

Also, pertaining O'Rourke and Ambarchi, Behold is neat.


No doubt third is recording like sh*t. A huge shame since the music is so fascinating (to me at least). I wish there was a way to clean it up but all the 'remastered' versions still sound notgreat at best. I suspect it's the best it can be.

And I haven't heard Behold, but I assume I would enjoy it. 

I actually love the muddiness of Third, just like I love the muddiness of Bitches Brew. I guess I don't like my fusion shiny. 

Or new...
I do like Bitches Brew and tend to dislike shiny fusion but BB is not nearly as muddy (or polite).

Man the early 90's CBS Jazz Masterpieces CD of BB I own sounds real lo-fi. Has it received better treatment in more recent years, or is my CD edition out of a bad batch?
Could be. I have a 00s reissue. I was kind of surprised you mentioned it, though. For both of the albums, the drums are quieter than I, personally, would mix them, but pretty much everything in BB is clearer and has more energy, in part due to the wider stereo image and also that it actually has highs. Not to mention a more diverse range of timbres (which is more on the arrangement side of things). I actually think it sounds pretty good, especially for how many improvising instruments it tries to balance. 

That said, my most recent attempt to listen to Third featured me turning it off 3/4 of the way through Facelift, which is a live recording. Revisiting the other tracks, it doesn't sound nearly as muddy, but still muddier than BB. The engineer didn't do the band any favors by panning the drums all the way to one side (BB has a drummer on each side at least), and there are a lot of overlapping frequencies that make it feel dull.
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...ever try Snarky Puppy for new, clean production but recorded live, jazz? I mention them a lot.
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I know SP. They used to come through here a lot. A friend of mine subbed for Michael League one gig. Personally I find them to be a bit too jazz school. There are a million and one bands that sound like them that come through here and everybody in the jazz school here writes stuff that sounds like them. Plus, the clean recording is just a little too clean for me and they could benefit from a more live sound. Incidentally, they are great live.

Probably my favorite jazz record from the last couple of years is Christian Scott's Stretch Music.


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I like my Puppy like I like my electro-industrial
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I like my Puppy like I like my electro-industrial
With nine inch nails?
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Originally posted by Polymorphia Polymorphia wrote:

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I like my Puppy like I like my electro-industrial
With nine inch nails?
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I like Skinny Puppy, but, pleb that I am, The Downward Spiral is my favorite industrial album.
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Not a fan of SP either. No musical depth. 
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There's a certain cheesiness to it (The Downward Spiral, NIN in general) I couldn't get over.

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Voopy didya hear about the stabbings in Turku?
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was it near your house there?
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No, it was at the marketplace.
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