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omphaloskepsis
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Posted: April 26 2017 at 18:01 | |
Return to Forever
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hieronymous
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Posted: April 27 2017 at 00:32 | |
It might be interesting to see if people who play various instruments prefer this or that band - a bassist might be more likely to like WR or RTF since the MO basslines are relatively "simple" compared to the other groups. How many guitarists love Weather Report? I'm a bassist but outgrew my Jaco stage - Stan the Man will always be huge for me, I even got him to sign one of my basses! - but I also appreciate the virtuosity of the non-bass instruments in Mahavishnu Orchestra. Or I could be totally off...
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: April 27 2017 at 00:43 | |
Of those, Weather Report
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beeebon
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Posted: April 27 2017 at 05:39 | |
Mahavishnu Orchestra for me, although I need to hear more by the other two
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Rushman
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Posted: April 27 2017 at 06:16 | |
Speaking of Fusion; I tuned into my local heavy metal station the other day (WSOU, out of Seton Hall University), and I heard this fusion song coming out of my speakers, I thought they changed formats!
Turns out it is a band called Nova Collective, with members of Between The Buried and Me, and Haken. It is quite good: Edited by Rushman - April 27 2017 at 06:44 |
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TeleStrat
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Posted: April 27 2017 at 08:16 | |
Probably every J/R/F fan has these three bands somewhere on their top ten list.
My list has Return To Forever closer to the top than the other two.
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Kepler62
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Posted: April 27 2017 at 10:32 | |
This was definitely the first fusion album.
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Magnum Vaeltaja
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Posted: April 27 2017 at 12:36 | |
Definitely one of the best albums I've heard this year so far. These guys are phenomenal!
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Pekka
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Posted: April 27 2017 at 13:36 | |
Agreed! Also check out Trioscapes if you haven't. Another fusion project by Dan Briggs (bass, drums, sax mainly), bought their second album at a BTBAM show and that led me to discover Nova Collective as well. And well, I've been listening to tons of Weather Report lately, but Mahavishnu might still be my favourite with their rawer edge. Romantic Warrior is all I've heard from Return to Forever, I suppose I should give it another go.
Edited by Pekka - April 27 2017 at 13:40 |
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micky
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Posted: April 27 2017 at 16:35 | |
urrrggg...... examples 1, 2, and 3 of why I think fusion sucks.. throw some notes in a blender and see how fast you can play it and call it fusion
voting 'other' on this one... real jazz-rock fusion... |
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Logan
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Posted: April 27 2017 at 17:06 | |
Yeah, this shouldn't have been called "Crystal Silence", it should have been Crystal Meth Shred Attack: And "Crystal" off I Sing the Body Electric should have been called "Crystal Meth" too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myEyFtImuYk That said, here's a more energetic song off I Sing the Body Electric since it's one of my favourites: Seriously, I wouldn't say that is true of early Weather Report or Return to Forever. If you haven't listened to Weather Report's first two albums or Return to Forever's first in a while, it might be time to try them again, even if they are not quite so relaxed as various Camel and Genesis numbers. |
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Just a fanboy passin' through.
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micky
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Posted: April 27 2017 at 17:10 | |
touché my friend.. well played
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hieronymous
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Posted: April 27 2017 at 20:48 | |
This is my personal favorite Weather Report footage:
Especially the first thing they do - Miroslav Vitous playing electric Fender through an Orange amp - sounds so good - they are grooving so hard but it's like an alien transmission... Speaking of alien transmissions, the Bill Connors-era RTF stuff is super heavy, almost jazz-metal - plus Stanley Clarke playing a Rickenbacker, and a single-pickup Jetglo 4000 at that! Edited by hieronymous - April 27 2017 at 20:49 |
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: April 28 2017 at 03:03 | |
Hadn't seen that WR clip before, thanks for posting
Felt like a putting a mic to a whirlwind. |
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crimhead
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Posted: May 01 2017 at 19:18 | |
Hard to go wrong with any of those bands. So much talent between them. One massive supergroup of talent. McLaughlin, Jaco,Clarke,Zawinul,Cobham,Corea,DiMeola,Shorter,etc,etc,etc
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irrelevant
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Posted: May 02 2017 at 07:51 | |
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Argo2112
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Posted: July 11 2017 at 14:21 | |
All are great but I would go:
1. Return to Forever 2. Mahavishnu Orchestra 3. Weather Report All three bands had some amazing musicians Think of some of the match ups you would have here. Joe Zawinul vs. Chick Corea - Jaco vs. Stanely Clark - Al DiMeola vs. John Mclaughlin Crazy! Edited by Argo2112 - July 11 2017 at 14:26 |
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: July 11 2017 at 15:50 | |
Where is Soft Machine, Brand X, Bruford or the Dixie Dregs?
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: July 11 2017 at 15:59 | |
Not a huge fusion fan but I love some of Mahavishnu's "Birds of Fire" and "The Inner Mounting Flame"...but if Bruford had been a choice that would've gotten the vote...One of a Kind is perfect
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siLLy puPPy
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Posted: July 11 2017 at 18:17 | |
Frank Zappa and Miles Davis did it first (at least well) but Mahavishnu Orchestra took it all the way. So MahaOrch for me
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