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Poll Question: Who is your favourite ?
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MO or WR.

MO today.
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Wayne Shorter has never written a bad tune. Joe Zawinul wrote some great stuff, too. And they surrounded themselves with other outstanding performers and composers like Jaco Pastorius. Heavy Weather was one of my earliest exposures to Fusion and remains a favorite.

Weather Report for me.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2017 at 14:35
Too hard. Each of these groups is an absolute monster, no debate.
 
On this day, I may vote for WR for Mysterious Traveller, Black Market and Heavy Weather.
 
But tomorrow I could vote for RTF for Where Have I Known You Before, No Mystery and Romantic Warrior.
 
The next day, MO for...and so on.
 
(The Tony Williams Lifetime should also be on this list.)
 
Just too hard.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rednight Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2017 at 15:27
This thread title sounds like "Heroes of Heavy Metal." Watch out, Paris.
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There will never again be another band like The Mahavishnu Orchestra.
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Return to Forever.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Dark Elf Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2017 at 18:29
The RTF version with Stanley Clarke, Al Di Meola, Lenny White and Chick Corea.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Barbu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2017 at 19:36
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:


Too hard.
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I can't choose. I won't choose! Ying Yang Each one was my favorite band at various times in my life. As soon as I start thinking maybe Mahavishnu Orchestra - I think back to hearing Vital Transformation for the first time - what time is that?!! - but RTF's Hymn of the Seventh Galaxy was a revelation - this is jazz metal - this is music I've only dared to imagine! - various incarnations of Weather Report - Jaco Pastorius, but also Alphonso Johnson, Victor Bailey, Miroslav Vitous... OK, maybe I wouldn't put Weather Report at the top. MO blew me away, but RTF touched me more deeply so I'll choose RTF. 

I honestly didn't think I would be able to choose but I did!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2017 at 21:47
I guess they are usually considered the big three of fusion. But what about Passport, Brand X, Dixie Dregs, Soft Machine, Herbie Hancock, Jean Luc Ponty, Bruford, Kraan, Iceberg, Area, Secret Oyster, Kenso, One Shot, Pat Metheny, Tribal Tech, Helmet of Gnats and on and on and on.

Anyway, I voted for Mahavishnu Orchestra. 


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Weather ReportBig smile
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I guess they are usually considered the big three of fusion. But what about Passport, Brand X, Dixie Dregs, Soft Machine, Herbie Hancock, Jean Luc Ponty, Bruford, Kraan, Iceberg, Area, Secret Oyster, Kenso, One Shot, Pat Metheny, Tribal Tech, Helmet of Gnats and on and on and on.

Anyway, I voted for Mahavishnu Orchestra. 

All great bands you mention(or the 80% I know of those),but I picked the 3 I did,because I think they sold the most records,and sold more concert tickets than any of those you mention.I could be wrong of course,but that was why I picked them.Not because of the ones I like better.  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mormegil Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2017 at 07:06
Going with Weather Report this time.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BaldJean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2017 at 08:15
these bands certainly were giants of fusion. I would include a fourth band, though their approach was totally different: Oregon


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All great bands, but I voted for Mahvishnu Orchestra.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BrufordFreak Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2017 at 12:19
Originally posted by gr8dane gr8dane wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

I guess they are usually considered the big three of fusion. But what about Passport, Brand X, Dixie Dregs, Soft Machine, Herbie Hancock, Jean Luc Ponty, Bruford, Kraan, Iceberg, Area, Secret Oyster, Kenso, One Shot, Pat Metheny, Tribal Tech, Helmet of Gnats and on and on and on.

Anyway, I voted for Mahavishnu Orchestra. 

All great bands you mention(or the 80% I know of those),but I picked the 3 I did,because I think they sold the most records,and sold more concert tickets than any of those you mention.I could be wrong of course,but that was why I picked them.Not because of the ones I like better.  

I thought these three bands appropriate for their early contribution to pioneering the subgenre. I think Colosseum, Nucleus, Herbie Hancock/Eddie Henderson Mwandishi era, Larry Coryell, early 1970s Santana and the Softs might also be deserving of inclusion but, as you said, in terms of sales and world-wide following and impact these are probably the three. Still, a shame more people haven't heard Coryell, Eddie Henderson or Nucleus. Then we have to open a whole new thread RE Demetrios Stratos' AREA!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote hieronymous Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2017 at 12:41
The only other groups that I can think of that reached the levels of popularity are Miles Davis's Bitches Brew & Herbie Hancock's Headhunters.
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(MO=WR)>RTF.

Today I voted for MO but tomorrow I might have voted for WR.  RTF for me is a step below.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Upbeat Tango Monday Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2017 at 17:43
I voted for the guys from New York
Ok, let's get serious for a little bit. I went with Return to Forever, but I might change my mind tomorrow. The three bands are quite good.
These days I'm really into Brand X, though.
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It's funny I am listening to Mahavishnu right now! SmileSmileSmile (Birds of Fire, track ~3)

However I would go with Return to Forever without much thinking... for me Mahavishnu, being absolutely awesome, is somewhat more mystical and darker and sometimes, on some songs, has these long insulse solo passages (perhaps I was thinking on Birds of Fire but for me Inner Mounting Flame is a masterpiece!). On the other hand, RTF's Stanley Clarke superb bass lines come to my mind on my favorite album, Hymn of the Seven Galaxy, and my nowadays favorite track, Theme to the Mothership.

When we talk of Jazz Fusion, I'm definitely more inclined to that more sober, scifi (in the case of RTF), sophisticated, jazz oriented mood and cohesion that show bands like RTF, Brand X, Bruford (One of a Kind), Allan Holdsworth (RIP) (Blues for Tony), Gong's Gazeuse!, Jean-Luc Ponty (Cosmic Messenger), some Zappa magnificent jazz fusion passages/songs/albums (Inca Roads, Waka Jawaka, Grand Wazoo)

I'm definitely going to take a look at some bands mentioned here, being this perhaps my favorite sub-genre. On my part, I would like to recommend to all a very accomplished Chilean jazz fusion band, Congreso, with a long discography and beautiful urban-folk southamerican touches.
 
 
By the way I just switched to listen to Holdsworth, Looking Glass on Blues for Tony Wink



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