Prog is dead, so dead |
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Logan
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Posted: July 22 2017 at 19:14 |
It's a fair hypothesis.... I've been quite interested in the holographic universe/ simulation hypothesis of late. Like fractals once did, it's ignited the public's imagination. Edited by Logan - July 22 2017 at 19:19 |
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Just a fanboy passin' through.
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Tillerman88
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 31 2015 Location: Tomorrowland Status: Offline Points: 495 |
Posted: July 23 2017 at 05:41 |
C'mon... let's be honest once for all guys .... which music really stood the test of time??...
And the obvious answer is: Nearly NO popular music really survived long enough in order to ensure its days of future passed as a "Highlander". So ....the greedy "never dies" Oscar goes to........ Art Music!... Yeaaahhh!! ;) Edited by Tillerman88 - July 23 2017 at 05:43 |
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The overwhelming amount of information on a daily basis restrains people from rewinding the news record archives to refresh their memories...
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JJLehto
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: July 23 2017 at 12:20 |
This topic again, eh?
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Queen By-Tor
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 13 2006 Location: Xanadu Status: Offline Points: 16111 |
Posted: July 23 2017 at 12:23 |
don't worry, it's just a glitch in the matrix |
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RoeDent
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 08 2009 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 850 |
Posted: July 23 2017 at 12:45 |
Those who keep saying that a genre is "dead" want it to die themselves. Not true supporters of prog.
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Queen By-Tor
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 13 2006 Location: Xanadu Status: Offline Points: 16111 |
Posted: July 23 2017 at 12:48 |
Do you think that makes them the Agents? like... giving us something to fight against to keep us invested in the illusion? Or do you think it makes them like the awakened few? They've taken the red pill and now they want us to join them in a life beyond prog. |
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Slartibartfast
Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29625 |
Posted: July 23 2017 at 13:56 |
Yeah, whatever -
Ciccada IO Earth feat Esserela Perfect Beings Pandora Snail Tea Club, The Parallel Mind Thieve's Kitchen, The Bowness, Tim Argue's Secret Society, Darcy James Rainbird, Billie Fractal Mirror I Am The Morning Herd Of Instinct Knifeworld Henriette, Mette Big Big Train Mother Tongue Bartsch's, Nik Mobile Chatoorgoon, Rani Djam Karet |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Atavachron
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 64352 |
Posted: July 23 2017 at 16:56 |
The SimHyp is very interesting, but what if the opposite is true: what if the universe is in fact information/number-based, and therefore how we perceive and act and construct things is also?-- I don't necessarily see a conflict between materialism and simulism. We assume that bits of information are an idea we came up with, but if nature uses digits and figures too than reality makes sense without there being some programmer with a master hard drive who's constructing everything.
And another question is begged: if the Simulation idea is correct, then what happens when the simulated ~ in other words, us ~ become aware of that truth? Do we rebel, try to take control of the game and therefore our future? And will the virtuals that we ourselves have created someday also become self-aware and start looking for us? Who creates what, and who is who's creator? Edited by Atavachron - July 23 2017 at 16:57 |
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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Dellinger
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: June 18 2009 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 12608 |
Posted: July 23 2017 at 21:25 |
So, you don't like new prog because they just can't do it right anymore, and you don't listen to 70's prog because it's too depressing to listen to something that's gone. So, do you listen to prog at all? Do you actually like it? Or what is it that you actually like from prog? |
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Doke
Forum Newbie Joined: July 17 2017 Location: Seattle Status: Offline Points: 1 |
Posted: July 23 2017 at 23:59 |
It's been a bit dead lately but there's still some good stuff from the past to listen too. Iwouldn't say prog is dead. Edited by Doke - June 03 2018 at 00:41 |
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skog_prog
Forum Groupie Joined: May 30 2017 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 65 |
Posted: July 24 2017 at 00:12 |
A new Anglagard album is in the works. Don't lose hope yet!!!!
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Jeffro
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 29 2014 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 2037 |
Posted: July 24 2017 at 04:59 |
Trolling poster is trolling For someone who can't listen to 70s music and thinks prog is dead, it doesn't sound like you're much of a progaholic
Edited by Jeffro - July 24 2017 at 07:19 |
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uduwudu
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 17 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2601 |
Posted: July 24 2017 at 04:59 |
This is different . Most people love stuff that is dead and gone. I've Rory Gallagher and a glass of vino calypso going. Rory is dead. I had the privilege to witness his versatile blues in concert. I mourn his death and listen to his musc. Much the same with Hendrix and Bonzo, Moon (the latter two's respective bands). I like hearing Banks' era Yes, love ELP, Lake era KC. Anything that Wetton sings... Most bands prominent 40 - 50 years ago and for much of that time have at least one Freddie Mercury in their ranks. Their achievements matter (obviously to varying degrees according to taste). I enjoy shed loads of classical music; these guys would agree that they are dead, art is immortal and the great stuff lives on. Comedy ... now George Carlin cheers me up. Shame he and Zappa did not make an album together; that would have been a hoot. Both maybe are not trying that idea. Plenty of people die -- it's what we do. Some toes turn up too early say before 75. I'm very glad there are people who identify music styles as worthwhile to perpetuate. And prog rock - an art music, not a roots music is capable of considerable versatility still. The transaction is someone makes art, someone consumes it and that is that. |
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uduwudu
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 17 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2601 |
Posted: July 24 2017 at 05:06 |
Pre-zakly! No need for PA posts now. ;) FYI I do try out some new music, usually avant garde, electronic. But I like to do what I first did and do the opposite to everyone else - find out what came before. |
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progaardvark
Collaborator Crossover/Symphonic/RPI Teams Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Sea of Peas Status: Offline Points: 48737 |
Posted: July 24 2017 at 07:11 |
I like carrots. Cauliflower gives me gas.
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Luqueasaur
Forum Newbie Joined: December 05 2016 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 32 |
Posted: July 24 2017 at 07:15 |
Claiming prog is dead is the most bafflingly purist and erroneous claim I hear repetitively. The mainstream characteristic of SYMPHONIC PROG is undoubtfully dead; prog, no. Just because you don't like some mainstream post-rock/post-prog bands such as Riverside, TesseracT, Porcupine Tree, etc. (I don't blame you - dislike them either) it doesn't mean the indisputably progressive but underground gems aren't prog.
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum/Free Salamander Exhibit, Sigh, motW/Kayo Dot, Haken (like it or not, they're pretty creative), Vektor, The Mars Volta (not much underground but still), etc. are rather simple examples. Whether or not you like them, they are progressive because they do exactly what the "label" demands - subversion and innovation. They break paradigms. What I see, however, is that you have an issue that 70s symphonic bands aren't prominent anymore, and since those are the only type you like, you think all of prog sucks. You're wrong, and you should broaden your horizon. Complaining how "there is no prog nowadays" is living in an echo chamber that is the most unprogressive thing of all.
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SteveG
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20503 |
Posted: July 24 2017 at 07:23 |
Like Trump supporters, it's all based on one's perception of the facts. There are thousands of new prog bands making new prog music. If one choses not to see that, then what can we mere mortals that see that prog is still alive and kicking do to change their perception?
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Quinino
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 26 2011 Location: Portugal Status: Offline Points: 3654 |
Posted: July 24 2017 at 07:29 |
^ Just wave and smile, wave and smile ...
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miamiscot
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 23 2014 Location: Ohio Status: Offline Points: 3426 |
Posted: July 24 2017 at 08:22 |
Prog is more alive than ever.
Dave Weigel's book has helped. Yes getting inducted into the Rock Hall helped. King Crimson touring helps. ANd look at all the great bands we have out there: Anglagard, Anekdoten, Anathema, Big Big Train, The Tangent, Magenta, Neal Morse Band, Marillion, IQ, Kaipa, Knifeworld, Pandora Snail...
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someone_else
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: May 02 2008 Location: Going Bananas Status: Offline Points: 23996 |
Posted: July 24 2017 at 08:43 |
Putting reassembled dinosaurs on display does not resurrect them, it's just popularizing paleontology . Nevertheless we live in the best prog decade since the 1970's. The 2010's have seen some superb prog albums. |
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