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Sean Trane
Special Collaborator Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20080 |
Posted: August 25 2017 at 01:59 | |
Assuming that prog started in 67 (and not in 69 with In The Court). Before that, rock was called rock'n roll and Rhythm'n Blues... and TBH, I don't like most of it (some surf music, some RnR like Chuck Berry or Bo Diddley)
About this really... I was 4 when Trane died, when Beatles, Procol, Nice, Jefferson Airplane & Moodies released one of their major albums (their "first" for the last four), so it's not like I remember much prior to 67. Stand Up came in my life in 69, when my dad bought it on the strength of Bourée, but I didn't really get into prog before 74 (and rock altogether in 72 >> Beatles & Stones, mainly) However, I got into other forms of rock +/- after I got into prog - Supertramp's COTC was my first album bought with my own money, the week it was out in Canada. Soooo, if you except Beatles & Stones, I started "Rock" by its most ambitious form.
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ExittheLemming
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Penal Colony Status: Offline Points: 11415 |
Posted: August 25 2017 at 03:01 | |
Dinosaurs roamed the earth before Prog, then returned for a short spell until about 1978, then pissed off again. |
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noni
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 03 2008 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1092 |
Posted: August 25 2017 at 04:40 | |
Life moves on in all directions. I loved that early 50s- 60s hits then the 70s pop. Love Classical and Jazz and all of a sudden prog appeared!!..
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Saperlipopette!
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 20 2010 Location: Tomorrowland Status: Offline Points: 11225 |
Posted: August 25 2017 at 04:54 | |
Jazz was pretty much "world music" right from the very beginning interpreting folk tunes (and popular songs) from all over the world + incorporating classical themes. -and have you ever heard of Hungarian Dances (Brahms), Romanian Folk Dances (Bartok), Norwegian Dances (Grieg)? - to name a few obvious ones. |
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Kingsnake
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 03 2006 Location: Rockpommelland Status: Offline Points: 1578 |
Posted: August 25 2017 at 05:06 | |
Rhythm and blues was already a mix up of blues and rock'n'roll, because blues didn't have drums in the beginning. So that's already a progtendency in the 1950's
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Hercules
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Near York UK Status: Offline Points: 7024 |
Posted: August 25 2017 at 16:22 | |
I remember it well.
I was in my late teens when prog first emerged, just about to leave public school to enter the hallowed colleges of one of Britain's most ancient universities to study the universe and everything else. And before prog, musically life was dull and dominated by the 3 minute single. I didn't like most of it.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Online Points: 17368 |
Posted: August 25 2017 at 17:05 | |
Sure but just because Aaron Copeland incorporated a folk tune into his composition doesn't make him any less classical. Prog made the differences stand out. It was obvious there was other stuff in there.
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SteveG
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20587 |
Posted: August 26 2017 at 04:34 | |
It was not so bleak. Before prog there was Revolver, Sgt. Pepper's, Are You Experienced? and Days of Future Passed. It was groovy, dig?
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Man Erg
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Posted: August 26 2017 at 05:05 | |
I would have been grooving to Miles Davis, John Coltrane and Ornette Coleman.
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SteveG
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Posted: August 26 2017 at 06:13 | |
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: August 26 2017 at 06:56 | |
I still maintain that is Robbie Coltrane in drag on the right. Ummm....before prog, the universe consisted of nothing more elaborate than a fat maroon sofa suspended in the midst of a great emptiness.
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: August 26 2017 at 07:23 | |
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moshkito
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 17199 |
Posted: August 26 2017 at 10:40 | |
Hi, Hard to think that one "something" in music created the world ... and then there was light and a stage and some more bs that we decided to call "progressive". If you listen to music around the world, instead of just one culture or two, you will find that music has been "progressive" for hundreds of years, and that considering Stravinsky "progressive" during HIS TIME, is just about the same as we look at our "progressive" and consider it so important, that life could not exist before it. The "new" attitudes and abilities and exposition of it, was astounding to say the least, with youngsters that were capable of doing music with more ability than many folks with decades of study and work. The progressions and newer material in the 20th century, were probably the most widely varied of any century prior, and the 20th century will likely be remembered as the one time when music exploded, with more variations and "styles" than we could possibly imagine. But this colonial thinking, is kinda sad ... the world was there before and will be there after it. We just might call it something else other than "progressive".
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micky
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Posted: August 26 2017 at 10:51 | |
awesome!!!!! I love a man who is over even my head. Time to start a new PA's tradition... everytime Pedro posts.... everyone takes a shot.... or throws down the rest of his beer.
Done.... and popping open another. wooo hoooo!!!!
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: August 26 2017 at 11:07 | |
I could get very very drunk, I'm in!
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Ian
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micky
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Posted: August 26 2017 at 11:17 | |
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SteveG
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Posted: August 26 2017 at 11:41 | |
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: August 26 2017 at 11:48 | |
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Logan
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Posted: August 26 2017 at 12:10 | |
Haha. I know that's a joke, but just add some fine stuff from 1964. We also had jazz's Yusef Lateef's Eastsen Sounds, Herbie Hancock's Empyrean Isles, and Eric Dolphy's Out to Lunch. And we had stuff like The Holy Modal Rounders. Plus Stockahausen's Mixtur. And in 1964 we also had soundtracks such as Ennio Morricone's A Fistful of Dollars and I Malamondo, as well as John Barry's Goldfinger. Cool times. Edited by Logan - August 26 2017 at 12:12 |
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octopus-4
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Posted: August 26 2017 at 12:53 | |
More or less this ^
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