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    Posted: October 10 2017 at 12:00
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Jeff Porcaro - Toto / Steely Dan
Matt Cameron - Soundgarden/ Pearl jam
John Bonham - Led Zeppelin
Carter Bruford - Dave Matthews Band
Stewart Copeland - Police

I could go on... 
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Cozy Powell band..  Before he joined on a one off album with Keith Emerson and Greg Lake 
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The entire world of jazz, calling on line three.
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Yes, drumming is better in non prog bands.
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Jeff Porcaro and Simon Phillips in Toto...thread.
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Joe Morello. Brubeck Quartet. Magnificent.
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Nothing beats the best in jazz and extreme metal. However in prog there's always masters like Billy Cobham (although he's jazz too ;)

Check out bands like Nile and Behemoth (Demigod) era. Drumming doesn't get any more technical and crazy! Pretty much most of the hard bop jazz drummers as well
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Steve Gadd with Paul Simon is superbe, and Bernard Perdie in Steely Dan
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I would add Rogery Taylor to the list.
A very underrated drummer, he seems to be a "normal" drummer on their albums, but in gigs it was capable to show a powerful presence.
See "live in montreal" of 1982, you'll not be disappointed.


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A very underrated drummer Jim Gordon (Derek and the Dominos).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote chopper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2017 at 05:24
Originally posted by FUGAZI86 FUGAZI86 wrote:

I would add Rogery Taylor to the list.
A very underrated drummer, he seems to be a "normal" drummer on their albums, but in gigs it was capable to show a powerful presence.
See "live in montreal" of 1982, you'll not be disappointed.


Good drummer but I've always thought he has an awful drum sound on most Queen albums.
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Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

The entire world of jazz, calling on line three.
I was about to post a 100 different jazz drummers but I guess the above will suffice.
Most prog fans tend to think that their favoured genre is the top echelon of instrumental prowess yet most of these cats would break their backs trying to follow a jazz band. Most jazz drummers switching over to rock work just fine and tend to be the finest we ever hear in the genre....I'm not sure it goes the other way round...heh i can just imagine Lars Ulrich ditching Metallica to jam alongside his father's old jazz buddiesLOL

Alright then let's just mention the one and only Buddy Rich. To many the most gifted jazz drummer ever to walk the earth (which I certainly don't agree with) and disregarding the fallacy of such a statement it is somewhat understandable why folkds would believe that - especially after having watched the upcoming video (where he isn't even in his prime - the man is OLD in this clip):
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by FUGAZI86 FUGAZI86 wrote:

I would add Rogery Taylor to the list.
A very underrated drummer, he seems to be a "normal" drummer on their albums, but in gigs it was capable to show a powerful presence.
See "live in montreal" of 1982, you'll not be disappointed.


Good drummer but I've always thought he has an awful drum sound on most Queen albums.
I think he lost his balls somewhere in the early 80s. He used to be such a brilliant and interesting drummer but suddenly something grave happened to his playing and he started sounding like latter day Nick Mason.


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I know it's not even remotely implied by the OP but I can't help but think this is one of those 'tallest dwarf in the village' polls....(It's just me)

Ted McKenna (SAHB)
Budgie (Siouxsie & the Banshees)
Pete de Freitas (Echo & the Bunnymen)
Billy Ficca (Television)
John Densmore (the Doors)
Terry Chambers (XTC)
Karl Burns (the Fall)
Topper Headon (the Clash)
Boris Williams (the Cure)
Victor DeLorenzo (Violent Femmes)
J.D. Haney (the Monochrome Set)
Steve Jansen (Rain Tree Crow)
Bruce Smith (PIL)



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Yeah, when I think of great drummers, I think of jazz ones. My choice will be Art Blakey of Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers (check out Moanin').

A lesser known one that I love is André Ceccarelli, he's done solo, and collaborated with and been a session musician on many albums including ones by artists included in PA.

While I consider this to be JRF by this site's standards (not included in PA though although it has been suggested), this is one of my favourites featuring him:

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Thanks for the Buddy Rich
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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by FUGAZI86 FUGAZI86 wrote:

I would add Rogery Taylor to the list.
A very underrated drummer, he seems to be a "normal" drummer on their albums, but in gigs it was capable to show a powerful presence.
See "live in montreal" of 1982, you'll not be disappointed.


Good drummer but I've always thought he has an awful drum sound on most Queen albums.
I think he lost his balls somewhere in the early 80s. He used to be such a brilliant and interesting drummer but suddenly something grave happened to his playing and he started sounding like latter day Nick Mason.




Yes the sound on albums is very odd, and i think its due to the massive usage of 80's stuff as electronic drums and so on. actually after "News of the world" he became less interesting and original, on LPS.
Yesterday i played "the works" (1984) and i've not been impressed as always, but if i play most of those songs from "live at wembley", that would be another story. In records seem always to "hold back".
About nick mason comparison is a very controversial topic, some define him a genius drummer, some very lazy and weak. i find him very good in fills, and his drumming fit perfectly the Floyd sound, but we have to face after "the wall" he plays so few times for real. AMLOR for example never have a real drum play by him... Anyway drums is the crucial part of what we play, so this is a very interesting debate!

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