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    Posted: April 17 2020 at 17:00
Vangelis without a doubt in my mind. Oldfield composed some nice works, but Vangelis always hits me right in the gut and pulls the ol’ heart strings.
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Vangelis And Oldfield.
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Oldfield or Vangelis???????????????????? this is like chosen which child is the better one! both are essential musicians within the genre of experts...but if I`d have to chose one it has to be Vangelis!!!! 
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M.O. because of Voyager, which is my fav M.O. album.
But also of course Songs of Distant Earth, Ommadawn, Discovery, Crises and Five Miles Out.
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I like them both, but overall, I think Vangelis is more consistently great, however they have both had masterpieces and flops.

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They are both great. Love Mike Oldfield's Amorak and Tubular Bells along with a few others, but I find myself liking Vangelis a bit more. I love my keyboardists and Vangelis is a wizard, one of my favorites. Love his albums Spiral, Heaven and Hell, Blade Runner, etc. His work with Aphrodite's Child is pretty great too.
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Originally posted by pingkrimfloyd58 pingkrimfloyd58 wrote:

Vangelis simply because of Spiral
 

Amazing album, though I prefer Albedo 0.39. 
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Vangelis simply because of Spiral
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Impossible to choose. I like them both equally.
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Mike Oldfield.
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Mike Oldfield for me .  He did some great albums in the 80s and 90s
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Vangelis is cool and all but Mike Freaking Oldfield, people!!!
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Mike Oldfield without a doubt in my mind. Vangelis composed some nice works, but Oldfield always hits me right in the gut and pulls the ol’ heart strings.
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Yeah, I've always wondered about people who have issues with threads like these... do they think that someone was looking for the objectively best artist? That's just silly; these threads are all about discussing your opinions! No need to specify that as it should be obvious.
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,

Sad to see a thread like this ... it's like asking ... Beethoven or Tchaikovsky ... and/or ... left handed or right handed?

There is no proper answer, other than personal favorites.
Oh yawn. I'll give you my proper answers: Beethoven of course - and left handed - and Vangelis. That was easy! All based on personal preference and listening experience. Sorry to make you even more sad.
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Vangelis.

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I paid alot of attention to this post and I found out that Vangelis was much more than a synthesizer guy, he is like a composer. Now, I really cannot who is my favorite, maybe Oldfield for familiarity's sake.
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Vangelis
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Both have recorded some excellent music.
 
For me it has to be Vangelis. I say that simply because in the late 70's and early 80's a few of us at school started to explore electronic music (I must thank my French teacher for that, Mrs. Concorde.......it was the nose that done it LOL).She introduced us to Jean Michel Jarre in French class and a few of us loved it so much we not only eventually purchased those albums we could at the time but started to explore beyond Jarre. We encountered Tangerine Dream, Kraftwerk, and in my case Vangelis.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

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Is that right? My limited knowledge on the subject is that TB was championed by the respected British DJ John Peel and then snowballed from there. The Exorcist didn't do it any harm though that's for sure!
It was actually released months before the movie and was perhaps made widely known in the UK by John Peel. In anycase my main complaint is that despite its shocking length it has no variety andgets boring fast. 

It's interesting what you say as actually my main complaint about it is that it's too fractured and perhaps even too many ideas fighting each other. It was as is well know a series of unfinished pieces that got thrown together. Hergest Ridge and Ommadawn are both better as already stated although Amarok should not be undersold either. That's a mental album in more ways than one. MO putting a couple of fingers up to Richard Branson as being a bit 'Cloth Eared ....' apparently!


I find it strange that you consider Tubular Bells too fractured and as if too many ideas were thrown together, while thinking Amarok is at the same level as Ommadawn and Hergest Ridge. Amarok for me is indeed difficult to find some long enough cohesive bit, while Tubular Bells has many. Though I know TB for it's 2003 re-recording, perhaps he somehow managed to correct those issures... even if the music was supposed to have been re-created faithfully, I guess even note by note. However, I do love Tubular Bells better than Amarok, though the Africa 1 section is really gorgeous.

The rerecorded takes TB takes away the main strength of the original - its atmosphere. It's mostly the same apart from the section which originally featured Viv Stanshall who had sadly departed us by the time of its recording.

Amarok is some kind of epic chaos admittedly. TB was a series of pieces strung together. Some of its inspired but really it was never conceived as one piece whereas Amarok was. 

Mike's 5 star albums for me
Ommadawn
Incantations
Platinum
Amarok
Songs Of Distant Earth

There are a lot of 4 star albums! Hergest Ridge gets a point deducted for the heavy metal section which is ill conceived (imo) but the rest is sublime. TB is a 3-4 star album in my book. I actually prefer TB3 to the original especially the live version at Horse Guards Parade.


I still don't fully understand about the recorded takes or whatever on Tubular Bells. For me it feels very cohesive as a whole album, and as I understand it, it was intended as a single song, actually... though it doesn't really feel like that to me entirely. At least not as each side of his next 3 albums do feel like whole songs, but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy the album a lot. Actually, the first side I can divide in 3 parts, or collection of songs (The introduction, the rest of the pieces up to Russian, and the russian piece together with the Finale), and that second series of songs do sound very cohesive to me, as well as the last two pieces together. On the second side, I love it all up until the Caveman comes in, then it just looses me... too bad, since before the Caveman the song was building up to a great climax and then... the caveman comes in and ruins it all... and then the sailor comes in and doesn't help at all to set things right. But still, up until that part I do love the album. I do love Ommadawn (my favourite from him), and Songs from Distan Earth. Incantations is great, but a bit patchy, I guess. Amarok too, it's got many great bits, but that one loses in continuity... though as far as I understand it was carefully planned to be exactly that way (still, that fact doesn't make me enjoy it any more). And yeah, Hergest Ridge is wonderful too, and I do love the Heavy Metal section (if I understand the one you mean, though I don't think there's any other part on the album that could be confused with it)... it is a bit too chaotic even for metal (and it sounds more like proto metal than full blown metal), but within the chaos there's a melody that comes to the front that really grabs me and make me love it. Anyway, I'm not sure I would give any of those albums 5 stars, since usually I love one of the sides, but the other one is slightly weaker (though still enjoyable)... they may still get it because the side I love is really so sublime for me. However, from the albums you love, as far as I'm concerned, you are still missing Return to Ommadawn... that one was a really nice surprise for me this year, I didn't really expect him to make such a succesful comeback this late in his career. If I heard it without knowing it was from this year together with his 70's masterpieces, I wouldn't have doubted it was from that decade too, and consider it as equally wonderful.

Return To Ommadawn is going to be a bit of grower I suspect although I still feel it's in the 3 star category for me. The original Ommadawn is so inspired and so perfect , even the 'Horse Song' so I can't quite see it as near that. All the same it's very good and way better than any of the Mike Oldfield imitations that have surfaced in recent years.
However I would put Tres Lunas , Guitars and Voyager just ahead of it although they are not really comparable stylistically.


For me Ommadawn is his best, and side one is among my top 5 favourite songs. Perhaps trying to compare the new one to it just doesn't help it, but it's an amazing piece of music on it's own right. I haven't got Tres Lunas nor Guitars, so I can't copare them, but Voyager did just about nothing for me.
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