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    Posted: December 19 2017 at 20:16
So, who would be the four artists on your ultimate Mount Rushmore of Prog?

For me, YES would certainly be there. Even if they're 'out of fashion' now or whatever. They're still the prog masters in my book. One of their albums is, Close to the Edge.. ranks pretty high among prog albums last time I checked. And that's, obviously, not their only GREAT album. You know what the others are by now.

Another band, naturally, is GENESIS.. From Gabriel to Collins, this is one of the greatest bands ever period. The early proggy stuff speaks for itself.. Selling England by the Pound, The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, Foxtrot... I even love their 80's stuff like the S/T(Shapes) album and Invisible Touch.

And when talking about all time great prog artists, how can GENTLE GIANT not be mentioned?? The is a very rare band in which I literally love ALL of their albums. I even rock out to Civilian every once in a while. Their classic albums are well known and completely deserving of their reputations. The Missing Piece and Giant for a Day! are even cool albums if you give them a chance.

And for me that fourth and final spot currently belongs to Uncle FRANK ZAPPA! He just has a whole lot of great stuff lol. Too many great and classic albums to even list them all. This man was a genius of the highest order. He's definitely my current obsession, just can't get enough of his music!


So how about you? Who makes your ultimate Mount Rushmore of Prog?



Edited by YESESIS - December 19 2017 at 20:19
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2017 at 20:24
Van Der Graaf Generator, King Crimson, and Gentle Giant make up the proverbial Holy Trinity of prog. If it qualifies, then Tangerine Dream rounds out the group to four.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2017 at 20:26
Probably just Magma, King Crimson, and Van der Graaf Generator on mine.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2017 at 20:58
This seems similar to the Big 3, Big 4, Big 6, or whatever, threads. I know many people don't like such lists, and won't agree about the ones included, and say that quality is not the same as popularity, or whatever. But in my mind, the biggest prog bands would all be british, and I would consider them 6 that just can't be left out. Yes, Genesis, ELP, King Crimson, Jethro Tull, and Pink Floyd. If I go into a big 3, I guess it should be Yes, Genesis and ELP... and perhaps a big 4 with King Crimson added. The next 4, but I guess that's more personal than a real apreciation of popularity, would be Gentle Giant, Camel, VdGG, and Renaissance.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2017 at 21:10
Yes, Pink Floyd, Rush, Jethro Tull
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2017 at 21:20
If we're talking classic prog then:

King Crimson
Yes
ELP
Pink Floyd

Overall though, I'd personally say (in terms of scope of influence and relative quality of output):

King Crimson
Can
PFM
Zappa

EDIT- King Crimson, VDGG, Gentle Giant and Magma makes sense to me too.


Edited by Larkstongue41 - December 19 2017 at 21:22
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2017 at 22:30
For me it would be Yes, Rush, Genesis and Pink Floyd. Not just because those are among my favorites but because I feel they are the most important and successful.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2017 at 02:07
Pink Floyd, Yes and Genesis are beyond discussion for me. For the fourth slot there are some candidates: Crimso, ELP and JT (the others of the big six), Rush (held the flag high when the others had fallen into decline) and Magma. GG and VdGG would be fine as well. I think I'd give the fourth spot to Magma.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2017 at 02:29
I feel like this should be heads only, not whole bands.

1. Zappa
2. Gabriel with his flower head costume
3. The Gentle Giant bald, bearded mascot (which in the right light also serves as Francesco Di Giacomo)
4. An unfinished, complex jumble of boulders wearing Robert Fripp's glasses
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2017 at 04:15
Originally posted by mechanicalflattery mechanicalflattery wrote:

Van Der Graaf Generator, King Crimson, and Gentle Giant make up the proverbial Holy Trinity of prog. If it qualifies, then Tangerine Dream rounds out the group to four.
 
No way can you have a "Holy Trinity" without Yes or Genesis.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2017 at 06:28
But what about the Mount Progmore of Rush?

It would have to be predictable, big, first-tier, classic English prog acts: Genesis, Yes, King Crimson, ELP.

Though for my tastes ELP would be supplanted on the CD player by preferred acts including Tangerine Dream, Gentle Giant, Jethro Tull, and others, I believe they would merit a place on such a monument to prog history.

Edited by Peter - December 20 2017 at 06:55
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2017 at 06:44
Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, Pink Floyd
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2017 at 08:32
For me it would be VDGG, Crimso, Tull & Genesis.  But I agree with an earlier comment that said it should actually be 4 heads on the mountain so I'd go with Peter Hammill, Fripp, Ian Anderson & PG Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2017 at 08:46
for the head - Anderson, Fripp, Gabriel, Waters
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2017 at 10:30
Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

For me it would be Yes, Rush, Genesis and Pink Floyd. Not just because those are among my favorites but because I feel they are the most important and successful.

I tried to edit this last night but gave up after the capcha gave me crap and wouldn't let me repost. Anyway,
what I wanted to say is that my fourth one(PF)could be interchangable with King Crimson. I like ELP also but not quite as much as the other two. I also like VDGG, Camel and GG but not as much as PF or KC also so KC would possibly be another one to complete the big four. I suppose it depends on my mood. If I'm going for more objective and less subjective as in who I think deserves it as far as influence and popularity among prog fans it would be KC for sure since they are more known(and accepted)as prog than PF. That being said if I was making a personal list I might rate Camel and VDGG higher than KC.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2017 at 11:03
Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

I feel like this should be heads only, not whole bands.

1. Zappa
2. Gabriel with his flower head costume
3. The Gentle Giant bald, bearded mascot (which in the right light also serves as Francesco Di Giacomo)
4. An unfinished, complex jumble of boulders wearing Robert Fripp's glasses


That works for me for the heads, although I'd quite like to see a The Residents eyeball-head with top hat on the mount.



We've talked about heads, but what about tails?



Due to aesthetic considerations, I'd choose different "Prog" models for the less viewed backside of Mount Rushmore. Maybe a nod to Rush with the backside on Hemispheres, a nod to Yes with the backside from Going for the One, a nod to Guru Guru with the backside from Hinten, and Robert Wyatt's "rock bottom".

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2017 at 11:22
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2017 at 14:52
What it probably should be:
Yes, Genesis, King Crimson & Pink Floyd

(But I would probably put Rush in there personally)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2017 at 15:20
Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

I feel like this should be heads only, not whole bands.

1. Zappa
2. Gabriel with his flower head costume
3. The Gentle Giant bald, bearded mascot (which in the right light also serves as Francesco Di Giacomo)
4. An unfinished, complex jumble of boulders wearing Robert Fripp's glasses

In that case, I think the most representative Mt. Rushmore of prog would probably have the Gentle Giant and Peter Gabriel in his flower hat, as you mentioned, and then I'd add:
  • The screaming face from the Court of the Crimson King album cover
  • The skull from the Brain Salad Surgery cover
And the mountain itself would have to be floating in mid-air, Roger Dean style. Preferably in and around the lake, coming out of the sky... perhaps standing there.

And there'd likely be a fox on the rock, too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2017 at 17:49
There is so much great music out there, from the original/classic 70s era to contemporary times, it seems disrespectful or something to have to narrow it down to a list of only three. Saying this, no matter how many get onto the list, for sure there would be Soft Machine. 
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