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dr wu23
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Topic: Prog "One-Hit Wonders" (read before responding) Posted: January 09 2018 at 21:24 |
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"So you were into prog in the sixties? To me the only true prog bands before the "red faced album" were the Nice and the Canterbury bands. I agree most of it was proto but then at some point they splintered into other subgenres. If you want to call it proto prog that's cool but there has come to be a consensus from what I understand that proto is typically pre "red faced guy." :) I won't split hairs about it though. I mentioned PE because they even had a list of 100 so proto prog albums but these days not everyone on there considers albums like Spring or Cressida or Gnidrolog or Beggar's Opera or whoever to be proto prog. In my opinion(and something they mentioned on there as well)a better term for some of them anyway is "early prog." So for me personally pre "red face" is proto and post is "early prog." That's what works for me. I guess some see it as a chronological thing and to others it's more of a sound thing. Ultimately I go by what it says on here(although I can see both points). http://www.progarchives.com/subgenre.asp?style=37 "
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It is a sound thing for me .....but I certainly can understand why some want to date it before and after ITCOTCK...but to me many of those early prog things sound far more proto prog than they do prog rock. And as I said some don't even sound very proggy at all yet they manage to end up here on PA. Go figure.... |
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Erwaco
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Posted: January 09 2018 at 11:52 | |
Carson actually put out a solo effort known as john Carson's Hypermania a few years after leaving Arena.
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Lewian
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Posted: January 09 2018 at 06:37 | |
I like the fact that apparently pretty much everyone who did something great in prog did more or much more. Much of what is suggested here is either rather obscure or done by musicians who did many other things before or after. One could argue that great prog is nothing that somebody could do as a one-off without becoming addicted or committed to it. That's not a bad thing to say about prog in my book.
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cstack3
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Posted: January 08 2018 at 22:23 | |
Great story!! I've got the CD, even saw them in concert, and am not sure I'd recognize anything from the CD! I guess I should listen to it a few times!
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: January 08 2018 at 17:46 | |
True story: I was walking through a Kohl's Department Store with my wife and a song from that album came on. Weirdest thing ever.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: January 08 2018 at 16:50 | |
So you were into prog in the sixties? To me the only true prog bands before the "red faced album" were the Nice and the Canterbury bands. I agree most of it was proto but then at some point they splintered into other subgenres. If you want to call it proto prog that's cool but there has come to be a consensus from what I understand that proto is typically pre "red faced guy." :) I won't split hairs about it though. I mentioned PE because they even had a list of 100 so proto prog albums but these days not everyone on there considers albums like Spring or Cressida or Gnidrolog or Beggar's Opera or whoever to be proto prog. In my opinion(and something they mentioned on there as well)a better term for some of them anyway is "early prog." So for me personally pre "red face" is proto and post is "early prog." That's what works for me. I guess some see it as a chronological thing and to others it's more of a sound thing. Ultimately I go by what it says on here(although I can see both points). http://www.progarchives.com/subgenre.asp?style=37
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dr wu23
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Posted: January 08 2018 at 15:50 | |
Oh no ....been a member here since 2010...don't really post there at all....I consider all those bands that weren't fully symphprog around that time to be proto prog. Some were more toward rock than prog.
But these categories blur depending on personal tastes. If you listen to those bands I named above.....some of the songs are not very prog like at all....which is why I like to use the proto prog name. I been around a long time...I'm 66 years old so I was there before any band was called prog. ;)
Edited by dr wu23 - January 08 2018 at 15:55 |
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: January 08 2018 at 14:37 | |
You must be a member of progressive ears. That's just about the only site I know of where the members on there consider albums released after 1969/70 to be "proto prog." If you look those bands up on this site you will get a different category. Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - January 08 2018 at 16:41 |
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Posted: January 08 2018 at 14:27 | |
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: January 08 2018 at 14:22 | |
Although I have never heard it personally the band that comes to mind first for me is Kino. Remember them?
As far as musicians go the one that comes to mind for me is John Mayhew who played on "trespass." I suppose we could call Trevor Horn a "one hit wonder" too since he only appeared on Drama but isn't there supposed to be a version of Fly From Here coming out with his vocals on it instead of Benoit's? Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - January 08 2018 at 14:25 |
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dr wu23
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Posted: January 08 2018 at 14:03 | |
There were a number of proto prog groups that had only one album.....Fuschia, Titus Groan, Still Life, Ton Ton Macoute, Indian Summer, etc.....all were decent albums.
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HemispheresOfXanadu
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Posted: January 08 2018 at 10:04 | |
Speaking of drummers, how about the dude who played one show for The Who when Keith Moon collapsed? |
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Mormegil
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Posted: January 08 2018 at 06:46 | |
This . . . From what news snippets I've seen, I take it they're working on a second album. I sure hope that's the case. I had tickets to see them in SE Pennsylvania, but the show was cancelled due to "passport issues". Major letdown. |
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stewe
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Posted: January 08 2018 at 01:23 | |
Yezda Urfa.. A mix of Gentle Giant craziness and Yes melodic sense, on steroids. Exquisite playing, inventive, tongue-in-cheek music. They released one album in 1970s, one of the best prog I know, and since then I've never heard about any other music projects or involvement by any member of this band (except for their brief live reunion in 2000s). Other such wonder coming to my mind is Diabolus (1972).
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Mortte
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Posted: January 07 2018 at 22:43 | |
In Finland Nimbus, Nova and Scapa Flow made only one, but quite great albums. I donīt think none of them also sold well.
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Mortte
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Posted: January 07 2018 at 22:40 | |
Band called Brahman made only one album. I donīt think even that succeeded at all, anyway I think itīs quite good.
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cstack3
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Posted: January 07 2018 at 22:27 | |
Anderson-Ponty Band did one release, "Better Late Than Never," before vanishing.
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Dellinger
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Posted: January 07 2018 at 21:09 | |
As far as I understand, there's a whole bunch of bands/albums that fit the criteria within RPI. Right now I can think of YS from Il Balleto di Bronzo, Zarathustra from Museo Rosenbach. Inferno from Metamorfosi.
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sidc58
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Posted: January 07 2018 at 20:04 | |
Two groups come to mind:
Refugee with Patrick Moraz, Lee Jackson, Brian Davdison Quiet Sun with Phil Manzanera, Eno, etc. Edited by sidc58 - January 07 2018 at 20:07 |
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progmatic
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Posted: January 07 2018 at 16:48 | |
Armageddon s/t; Atlantis Philharmonic s/t; Morte Macabre "Symphonic Holocaust"; Babylon s/t -- just a few that came to mind without giving it much thought.
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