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Poll Question: Which of these do you rate most highly?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2018 at 12:54
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2018 at 12:58
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Another provocative title, I just mean 8th ranked studio album on the Top Prog Albums categories lists. I hope that I remembered all of the sub-genre (category) representatives this time.

These are the eighth ranked studio albums in each "sub-genre" according to Prog Archive's Progressive Rock Top Albums for all years and all countries lists. I used the Top Album lists and filtered by each sub-genre to see which album was listed in eighth place (they are ranked using a Query Weighted Rating algorithm). For instance, see Prog Folk: CLICK

So, to be clear just in case there is any confusion, I did not choose these because they are the eighth highest ranked albums by these bands, but instead these albums rank eighth in their respective categories according to the Progressive Rock Top Albums lists.

In the case of Prog Folk, the list is:

1. Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick
2. Jethro Tull - Aqualung (which I initially forgot on my last poll)
3. Jethro Tull - Songs From The Wood
4. Spirogyra - St. Radigunds
5. Eden - Erwartung
6. Los Jaivas - Alturas De Machu Picchu
7. Gryphon - Red Queen To Gryphon Three
8. Comus - First Utterance
9. Jan Dukes De Grey - Mice And Rats In The Loft
10. Strawbs - Hero And Heroine

Dang, Perry Leopold's Christian Lucifer, which is one of my very favourite albums, is way down at number 77 of the Progressive Folk albums list (only has ten ratings, perhaps I will write a review some day).

I mention Prog Folk since while I love various of these albums, I'm voting for First Utterance (a first rate album in my booksven if I still prefer the compilation Song to Comus: The Complete Collection -- not complete since Out of the Coma, we need an updated version). If it were Cardiacs' A Little Man and a House and the Whole World Window, then the choice would be a little more painful as I have been obsessed by that album of late (it sits at number 17 in the RIO/Avant Prog list), but as I said, there are a number of albums that I really love here. I guess if First Utterance were not on the list then I probably would go with the Laurent Thibault (wonderful album imo).

Don't feel guilty about voting if you don't know many on the list (there are a number here that I haven't heard).

yes pls write a review for Perry Leopold.  Great album and recent discovery of mine
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2018 at 13:33
This is surprising...  A poll by Logan ... and I own more than half of the options!

I am struggling to choose between  Gentle Giant and Riverside

both albums are almost perfect.

Went with Riverside
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2018 at 14:20
Oooh, National Health, Cardiacs or Relayer? Relayer doesn't need my help and is therefore out. I love Cardiacs but had Sing to God lower ranked in their catalogue than PA scores should suggest for long. I got more into it lately and so I think that it's probably just so slightly stronger than "Of Queues..."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2018 at 15:19
BBT - English Electric Part One has grown on me massively. Judas Unrepentant.Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2018 at 15:36
Relayer  and and Octopus are 8th rate prog albums?! I can't
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2018 at 15:36
Cardiacs get my vote, even though Gentle Giant is also really, really good with Octopus!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2018 at 15:45
BBT - English Electric Full Power has it all! However, I'll vote for Part 1, despite Part 2 having some great stuff. Obviously Relayer and Octopus come close - but thought I'd go for the newer boys on the block this time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2018 at 16:41
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2018 at 18:05
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In that order with NATIONAL HEALTH and COMUS right there too. So my top five.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2018 at 18:21
Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

Relayer  and and Octopus are 8th rate prog albums?! I can't


They've got some hearty competition! Relayer is up against the other Yes albums as well as Genesis and Camel, while Octopus has to compete with King Crimson, Van Der Graaf Generator and other GG albums (actually, when I do a search, The Power And The Glory is #8 is Eclectic while Octopus is #9.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2018 at 18:25
English Electric, Octopus, Salisbury, Relayer. In that order today, subject to change at any moment.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2018 at 18:44
^ and ^^ Subject to change all the time, rather like the album rankings.

These things are in flux, and the QWR algorithm seems to act strangely sometimes. I'm pretty sure Octopus was in eighth place at the time (I was thinking how appropriate for number eight being octo). It's really close between Octopus and The Power of the Glory, as the QWR score for Octopus (which determines rank) is 4.2610 and the one for The Power and The Glory is 4.2639. Can't see any indication why it would have moved, though, but I have noticed such changes before without seeing particular indications for it (no new reviews, but may be some new ratings that affected placement). It may be my fault or the system. Prefer Octopus myself, so I might have subconsciously favoured it or just thought eight because of the octo (plus I may have had puss on the brain).



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2018 at 19:37
Originally posted by ForestFriend ForestFriend wrote:

Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

Relayer  and and Octopus are 8th rate prog albums?! I can't


They've got some hearty competition! Relayer is up against the other Yes albums as well as Genesis and Camel, while Octopus has to compete with King Crimson, Van Der Graaf Generator and other GG albums (actually, when I do a search, The Power And The Glory is #8 is Eclectic while Octopus is #9.

Ok I suppose it's fair. I, personally, rank both of those very highly though.

And I see they're currently first and second in this poll, so just really hope it stays that way. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2018 at 20:47
Dang, this is a tough one to pick only one album. I'll also put myself in the camp of struggling to pick between Comus and Laurent Thibault... although I find myself equally drawn to Gentle Giant or Eberhard Weber. 

Think I'll go for the (so far) vote-less one with Colours of Chloe.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2018 at 21:29
Originally posted by Magnum Vaeltaja Magnum Vaeltaja wrote:

Dang, this is a tough one to pick only one album. I'll also put myself in the camp of struggling to pick between Comus and Laurent Thibault... although I find myself equally drawn to Gentle Giant or Eberhard Weber. 

Think I'll go for the (so far) vote-less one with Colours of Chloe.


I hadn't heard Colours of Chloe -- listening to it now on youtube, and is this ever gorgeous?! Wow. Glad I did this poll if even just to discover this. Fantastic! Need to get this album ASAP.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2018 at 21:56
^ Glad to hear you like it. Really a standout among the ECM label's many jewels as far as I've delved into them. If you liked Colours of Chloe you'd probably enjoy Weber's other 70's works. Yellow Fields and Silent Feet are also favourites of mine.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2018 at 22:17
Originally posted by Magnum Vaeltaja Magnum Vaeltaja wrote:

^ Glad to hear you like it. Really a standout among the ECM label's many jewels as far as I've delved into them. If you liked Colours of Chloe you'd probably enjoy Weber's other 70's works. Yellow Fields and Silent Feet are also favourites of mine.


^ Thanks, I will look into those too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2018 at 05:20
Yes > National Health > Gentle Giant > Atheist > Comus > Le Orme
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2018 at 09:07
One always  wonders on these type of polls as to what one is rating.....musical playing ability, composition skills and song structures, or just if it's your personal favorite of those listed...?

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