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    Posted: February 24 2018 at 09:33
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2018 at 09:37
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2018 at 09:38
have to admit to being a Ringo fan...  I mean really.. who ISN'T a Ringo fan deep down.  He could even drink Moonie under the table.. something I will definitely try when my body finally gives out on me and I make the ascention.  Night one.. Moon... Night Two.. oh yes... Janis...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2018 at 10:49
I think Ringo. He occasionally has a jazzy flair to his playing - something I never hear in Charlie’s playing. Plus I e never heard Charlie play an odd meter.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2018 at 11:46
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

I think Ringo. He occasionally has a jazzy flair to his playing - something I never hear in Charlie’s playing. Plus I e never heard Charlie play an odd meter.

:)  you might dig a bit deeper Tom... Charlie is of course a jazz drummer.. who earned his bread playing in non jazzy band haha.  Comparing these two is of course the classic creativity vs talent conundrum. I'd say.. in fact pretty much any drummer would recognize Watts is the far more talented of the two. However due to group dynamics and styles.. Ringo got to express his creativity through the groups music than Watts ever got to express his talent through the Stones music.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2018 at 14:22
Really hard decision...but I`ll take Charlie, just because Ringo did great job in the sixties, but not so much after that, Charlie has done great job also these days!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2018 at 16:13
I would agree with those who think Charlie is a better drummer - but I always quite liked Ringo's simple, but effective style. Unfairly underrated. Even that simple beat on 'Ticket to Ride' still resonates more than all the double bass drum intricacy of many a prog metal maestro.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2018 at 17:59
A lot of Ringo's drum 'recordings' aren't really Ringo, Charlie Watts never needed a replacement.
If you stack up all of Ringo's replacements against Watts, then maybe 'Ringo' would be the right choice.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2018 at 18:44
I have to go with Charlie Watts on this one. I openly admit that I strongly preferred the Stones over the Beatles back then. I was one of those odd kids who saw the Beatles on Ed Sullivan in early 1964 (I was age 7 at the time) and did not like them at all. Even after all these years, I cannot listen to their early work prior to A Hard Days' Night. Never was a fan of bubble gum type music. The Stones, on the other hand, appealed to me from the first time I heard Satisfaction and I liked the vast majority of their '60s work. They did start to lose me around the mid-'70s though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2018 at 19:24
Charlie Watts.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2018 at 23:06
Originally posted by SquonkHunter SquonkHunter wrote:

I have to go with Charlie Watts on this one. I openly admit that I strongly preferred the Stones over the Beatles back then. I was one of those odd kids who saw the Beatles on Ed Sullivan in early 1964 (I was age 7 at the time) and did not like them at all. Even after all these years, I cannot listen to their early work prior to A Hard Days' Night. Never was a fan of bubble gum type music. The Stones, on the other hand, appealed to me from the first time I heard Satisfaction and I liked the vast majority of their '60s work. They did start to lose me around the mid-'70s though.
Really went speechless when somebody´s telling he´s seen Beatles! (I wasn´t even born when they splitted) I like also their early stuff, they were really tight playing band already beginning. Of course the dearest ones are the stuff after Help!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2018 at 23:08
Originally posted by Squonk19 Squonk19 wrote:

I would agree with those who think Charlie is a better drummer - but I always quite liked Ringo's simple, but effective style. Unfairly underrated. Even that simple beat on 'Ticket to Ride' still resonates more than all the double bass drum intricacy of many a prog metal maestro.
I have always liked a lot Ringo´s style! He could really bang the drums early days! And got really great drummer-boy!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2018 at 00:21
I recall seeing some live Stones footage (mid-late ‘70’s) and Charlie had this MASSIVE looking kit, with, maybe 6 mounted toms, double-bass, cymbals everywhere. Dunno if he used it all though.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2018 at 00:27
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2018 at 05:39
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

A lot of Ringo's drum 'recordings' aren't really Ringo, Charlie Watts never needed a replacement.
Hmm, McCartney played the drums on a few when Ringo left during The White Album recordings (e.g. Back in The USSR) but that doesn't really count as "a lot".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2018 at 05:42
yeah, I believe that Macca's role as the Beatles' second drummer is overstated, with only two songs totally credited to him. (..USSR and Ballad Of J&O). I don't count Wild Honey Pie as my 6 year daughter used to play it on my kit!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2018 at 06:05
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

yeah, I believe that Macca's role as the Beatles' second drummer is overstated, with only two songs totally credited to him. (..USSR and Ballad Of J&O). I don't count Wild Honey Pie as my 6 year daughter used to play it on my kit!
I think he'd may have done "Dear Prudence" as well. It just goes to show that Lennon's supposed comment about Ringo not being the best drummer in The Beatles was incorrect.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2018 at 07:17
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

yeah, I believe that Macca's role as the Beatles' second drummer is overstated, with only two songs totally credited to him. (..USSR and Ballad Of J&O). I don't count Wild Honey Pie as my 6 year daughter used to play it on my kit!
I think he'd may have done "Dear Prudence" as well. It just goes to show that Lennon's supposed comment about Ringo not being the best drummer in The Beatles was incorrect.
I believe I once read that "Dear Prudence" was disputed, but I don't remember by who. Yoko maybe? LOL The drums do have Macca's sense of rhythm, so Sir Paul it is.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2018 at 07:49
Here is Quincy Jones talking about having a jazz drummer fill in for Ringo, there are more instances than this, Ringo needing fill-ins is just something that is well known in the music industry.

" I remember once we were in the studio with George Martin, and RingoJones arranged a version of “Love Is a Many-Splendored Thing” for Starr’s 1970 solo debut album Sentimental Journey, which was produced by the Beatles’ frequent collaborator George Martin. The song, and album, are more than a bit gloopy. had taken three hours for a four-bar thing he was trying to fix on a song. He couldn’t get it. We said, “Mate, why don’t you get some lager and lime, some shepherd’s pie, and take an hour-and-a-half and relax a little bit.” So he did, and we called Ronnie Verrell, a jazz drummer. Ronnie came in for 15 minutes and tore it up. "
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