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Peter Gabriel played oboe.  

http://www.uncut.co.uk/features/peter-gabriel-you-could-feel-the-horror-29379

I played the flute – badly – and the oboe very badly, and the drums pretty badly, but all enthusiastically.
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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Peter Gabriel played oboe.  

http://www.uncut.co.uk/features/peter-gabriel-you-could-feel-the-horror-29379

I played the flute – badly – and the oboe very badly, and the drums pretty badly, but all enthusiastically.

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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Peter Gabriel played oboe.  

http://www.uncut.co.uk/features/peter-gabriel-you-could-feel-the-horror-29379

<span style="font-size: 16px; font-family: "Noticia Text"; font-weight: bold;">I played the flute – badly – and the oboe very badly, and the drums pretty badly, but all enthusiastically.</span>
How different things might have been if PG had been the drummer / wind player and let PC handle vocals and lyrics in ‘classic’ Genesis. We coulda had a fifteen-minute version of Sussudio with bad drums and a terrible oboe break. I'd pay good money for it.

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Just listening to Franco Battiato's Sulle Corde di Aries. A wonderful album that I would recommend to anyone. The final track is full of oboe.
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I'm having trouble imagining an oboe getting a really good aggressive sound without sounding quacky and shrill. Might be why a lot of proggers stick to flute, sax or violin for their "unusual" instruments. Anyone have any examples where an oboe is used as a rock instrument, rather than just for lighter/classically inspired parts?
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Originally posted by ForestFriend ForestFriend wrote:

I'm having trouble imagining an oboe getting a really good aggressive sound without sounding quacky and shrill. Might be why a lot of proggers stick to flute, sax or violin for their "unusual" instruments. Anyone have any examples where an oboe is used as a rock instrument, rather than just for lighter/classically inspired parts?

Hm, in my opinion "shrill" equals "aggressive", so I see absolutely no problem there. An aggressive sax or violin also sounds shrill.


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My definition of shrill is more like "annoyingly trebly", so I would have to disagree with you there... of course we could spend all day arguing about timbral adjectives and accomplish nothing.
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Originally posted by ForestFriend ForestFriend wrote:

My definition of shrill is more like "annoyingly trebly", so I would have to disagree with you there... of course we could spend all day arguing about timbral adjectives and accomplish nothing.

Shrill is definitely "annoying trebly", but that's exactly why it is aggressive.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cstack3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 20 2018 at 22:19
Upon reflection, I remembered hearing a bit of oboe on KC's "Lizard," perhaps on "Prince Rupert Awakes." 

I checked the personnel via Wikipedia: 

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More information about "Lizard," this article is great! 

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/king-crimson-lizard/

He did muster praise for "Bolero," writing, "This is the only part of the album I am able to remember with anything other than fear, terror, misery and suffering. ... The main theme, played on oboe by Robin Miller (co-principal oboist with the BBC Symphony Orchestra under [conductor Pierre] Boulez at the time) is a gift. This is a melody which sustained me in difficult times."




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Boojieboy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2018 at 16:28
There's great oboe work by Andrew McKay (Roxy Music), Peter Gabriel (Selling England-era Genesis), and Robin Miller (Crimso), to name a few.
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And then there's...


That’s Stephen Houston on oboe.





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oboe was used in the main theme of "Hergest Ridge" Part 1 by MIKE OLDFIELD while it seems to have been used in the main instrumental break of "Mother Russia" by RENAISSANCE.  Since most of the 1970s Renaissance albums used an orchestra, specific instruments are not always credited
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...do it twice more, once with the oboe, once without it, and then - we finish.

The Robin Miller in question is also credited on Red. The wind instrument that plays the vocal melody around the 10 minute mark of "Starless" is probably his oboe.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ForestFriend Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2018 at 07:54
There's also some oboe during the verses of Fallen Angel. Sounds like a combination of oboe and soprano sax playing the vocal melody at the end of Starless (as well as the reprise of the guitar melody).


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