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Poll Question: If the Presidential Election was tomorrow would Trump be reelected?
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3 [13.04%]
7 [30.43%]
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Mention 5 democrats whom could outsmart, outtalk, outmanouver and outwit Trump and hes media talkskill. One need to find a tachtique and dont act like smartasses cause els Trump will win. One needs the wit of Stephen Colbert, the stature of Schwartzenegger, the political toughness of Sandars, then you will beat Trump


5?? Mention one.....LOL. The Bern is super weak, love his passion but he's done. The biggest plus Trump has going for him is he is more a business man than a politician, and international business too. He has more contacts around the world than any previous politician has ever dreamed of having, and vision.....I saw a 20+yr old TV piece of him on Oprah and even then he was saying how the US was being taken advantage of by NATO, it just needs to be fixed.

I'm not sure he will win again if he runs, but right now, today not sure who could beat him. We will see in a couple yrs, but with all the bitchin and moanin going on I would be shocked if he wins a 2nd term.

Name one country he has good relations with, besides our enemy, Russia.
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You know...it gets a little funny when people trump Trump's business background. Here's a man who has had multiple Chapter 11's and bankruptcies and failures of various branded  products. It's claimed he owes everyone money and is in hock when it comes to many dealings and has pimped over many ( it's no secret he has a bad rep with business people in New York...) and has had many lawsuits both started by him and against him. And there are reasons to believe he's in league with many Russian business partners..not all of them above board.
He was given a large stake by his father to get going and his fathers many connections. I think most of us with half a brain could have parlayed that into more money.
Having said all of that , he is 'bullish' on America which is a good thing, but at the same time he's an obnoxious egotistical person who pisses people off including old friends. He is also catering to the Evangelical and hard right to get support which imho is a bad thing. We don't need that kind of Neanderthal thinking as we move forward into the 21st century.
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Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Mention 5 democrats whom could outsmart, outtalk, outmanouver and outwit Trump and hes media talkskill. One need to find a tachtique and dont act like smartasses cause els Trump will win. One needs the wit of Stephen Colbert, the stature of Schwartzenegger, the political toughness of Sandars, then you will beat Trump

5?? Mention one.....LOL. The Bern is super weak, love his passion but he's done. The biggest plus Trump has going for him is he is more a business man than a politician, and international business too. He has more contacts around the world than any previous politician has ever dreamed of having, and vision.....I saw a 20+yr old TV piece of him on Oprah and even then he was saying how the US was being taken advantage of by NATO, it just needs to be fixed.

I'm not sure he will win again if he runs, but right now, today not sure who could beat him. We will see in a couple yrs, but with all the bitchin and moanin going on I would be shocked if he wins a 2nd term.
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I'd vote for McAfee over Trump.
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Mention 5 democrats whom could outsmart, outtalk, outmanouver and outwit Trump and hes media talkskill. One need to find a tachtique and dont act like smartasses cause els Trump will win. One needs the wit of Stephen Colbert, the stature of Schwartzenegger, the political toughness of Sandars, then you will beat Trump
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Trump only squeeked by last time due to the Electoral College...he lost the popular vote.
It still amazes me that people voted for such an obnoxious person but if the Dems get a decent candidate I think Trump would lose. 
I can't say that it amazes me but perhaps I'm jaded. Anyhow, if blacks and Latinos don't vote in numbers the next time around and if millennials still bemoan the loss of Bernie and don't vote, we'll be in the same pickle. Perhaps if some people lose some liberal rights like legal abortion then maybe people will wake from their coma.
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Trump only squeeked by last time due to the Electoral College...he lost the popular vote.
It still amazes me that people voted for such an obnoxious person but if the Dems get a decent candidate I think Trump would lose. 
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Yes, numbers don't lie, but it's not a full 57% on the other side that will vote against Trump. Some will vote for some other party's candidate or just not vote at all like in the last election.
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

With the 43% approval rating that Trump currently has, I would have to say so yes unfortunately.

Considering only 58% of eligible voters went to the polls in 2016, that 43% is not really quantifiable. Many of those who approve of him have trouble counting the few teeth in their heads, let alone actually vote.
I hear you, but 43% of the 58% that votes still gets him in.

Mathematics, my dear, mathematics. If only 58% of the population votes, and of that number only 43% vote for Trump, that's still 57% voting against him. To put it in perspective, Obama got 51.19% of the vote and Romney 47.32% of the vote in 2012. Obama won by 5 million votes.

Unless you plan on resurrecting Ross Perot.

But if a large chunk of that 57% comes from Calif and New York?  We have seen this movie before and not long ago either. What will it take for Democrats to rebuild the Lost Blue Wall in the Midwest, is the question.
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

With the 43% approval rating that Trump currently has, I would have to say so yes unfortunately.

Considering only 58% of eligible voters went to the polls in 2016, that 43% is not really quantifiable. Many of those who approve of him have trouble counting the few teeth in their heads, let alone actually vote.
I hear you, but 43% of the 58% that votes still gets him in.

Mathematics, my dear, mathematics. If only 58% of the population votes, and of that number only 43% vote for Trump, that's still 57% voting against him. To put it in perspective, Obama got 51.19% of the vote and Romney 47.32% of the vote in 2012. Obama won by 5 million votes.

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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

With the 43% approval rating that Trump currently has, I would have to say so yes unfortunately.

Considering only 58% of eligible voters went to the polls in 2016, that 43% is not really quantifiable. Many of those who approve of him have trouble counting the few teeth in their heads, let alone actually vote.
I hear you, but 43% of the 58% that votes still gets him in.
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I'm willing to bet he's in for another four years.

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Trump angrily decides to invade Venezuela when his aides notify him Puerto Rico is already a U.S. territory.
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So, in a bipartisan report, both Republicans and Democrats on the Senate Intelligence Committee all agree that the Russians attacked the U.S. 2016 election in favor of Trump. The CIA, FBI and NSA also all agreed when they assessed that "Putin and the Russian Government aspired to help President-elect Trump’s election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably to him." 

The only one who will not admit it is Trump himself. And as president, he is the one who is supposed to coordinate the defense of our democracy. He refuses to do so. Vote November 6th.


Here is a very good encapsulation of the agreement of the bipartisan senate committee and every U.S. intelligence agency, as opposed to the sham ran by Trump Quisling Devin "I ain't hidin' behind this bush" Nunes. The article is aptly titled, "Bipartisan Senate Panel Gives Middle Finger to Devin Nunes".
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I certainly won't be shocked if he wins reelection in 2020. 
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

With the 43% approval rating that Trump currently has, I would have to say so yes unfortunately.

Considering only 58% of eligible voters went to the polls in 2016, that 43% is not really quantifiable. Many of those who approve of him have trouble counting the few teeth in their heads, let alone actually vote.
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With the 43% approval rating that Trump currently has, I would have to say so yes unfortunately.
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No, Especially not if he has a Primary Challenger or Challengers that either are NeverTrump Republicans like John Kasich or Alt Right Loonies like Steve Bannon or Don Blankenship. (I've heard rumors of them possibly doing this.)
 Trump would most likely win the Primary but the supporters of the Primary Challengers would then either stay home and not vote, vote for the Democrat, or even vote for a Third Party/Independent Candidate.
It's what happened to Herbert Hoover, Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, and Bush Sr.
They all lost in part because of Primary Challengers like Joseph I. France, Ronald Reagan, Ted Kennedy, and Pat Buchannon.
(I've even heard rumors of Mike Pence thinking about Challenging Trump because Pence started his own SuperPAC which is unusual for a Vice President to do.)
And also especially if a Third Party/Independent Candidate runs against him like possibly Don Blankenship running with the Constitution Party.


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