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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

I had to look up Lord Dunsany - so at least I learned summat Thumbs Up (but proto Tolkien?) Thumbs Down

But you see, that's exactly why I mentioned Dunsany in the first place. In keeping with the theme of the thread and all. I could have mentioned Andrew Lang as well. Wink
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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

[QUOTE=cstack3]Prog is music about hobbits, dragons, wizards and elves.  

Really, it is.  Trust me. 
Genesis never wrote about dragons, fairies etc., but Gabriel's lyrics did touch upon English motifs (kings, queens, knights etc.) that populate fantasy literature.  "Time Table" comes to mind.  

not true. "The Fountain of Salmacis" would fall into that category; a nymph is a creature from Greek mythology, and Hermaphrodite is the son of the Greek Gods Hermes and Aphrodite. "Squonk" would fall into that category as well (mystical creature supposed to live in the hemlock forests of Pennsylvania; the Squonk is actually mentioned in Fearsome Creatures of the Lumberwoods, With a Few Desert and Mountain Beasts  by William T. Cox, published in 1910). "Ripples" also falls into that category; the lyrics make it clear that it is Helen of Troy as an old woman who is looking into the pool, so we have Greek mythology again

Good points all, but I tend to differentiate between classical fantasy figures & LOTR-era fictional types.  

Tangerine Dream's "Phaedra" is inspired by Greek mythology, but I don't think it sent any prog critics into laughter about "hobbits and trolls and dragons."  

I can't think of many obvious King Crimson examples of LOTR contamination, perhaps the cover of "Cirkus" is the closest, at it features wurms and all sorts.  
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

I could have mentioned Andrew Lang as well. Wink


A Scottish hippy fantasist? (he and Donovan must have eluded our death squads)
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I hereby coin the word "Progma", a portmanteau to encapsulate all the untenable tenants and pathetic paradigms populating these pages.
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"progma" sounds like some gland in the body. "doctor, my progma hurts"


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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

"progma" sounds like some gland in the body. "doctor, my progma hurts"

I'm glad you're seeing a doctor. You may have a progmalignant tumor. It may have progmastisized.
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You should see a specialist. Maybe a progtor.
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^ Going For The Bum...

A progtologist perchance.
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My favorite, least favorite, piece of Prog dogma is this:

YES and RUSH are paradigm gods of all Prog.

I personally despise both bands with a passion.
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Prog is dead/dying.

Nothing can beat the 70s prog bands.
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Jethro Tull is not prog.
Pink Floyd is not prog.
Supertramp is not prog.
Kansas is not prog.
*Insert Band Name* is not prog.
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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

[QUOTE=The Dark Elf] I could have mentioned Andrew Lang as well. Wink


A Scottish hippy fantasist? (he and Donovan must have eluded our death squads)[/QUOTE

So, I better keep running then....

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"Bass has to be played with fingers only, or it doesn't count!"

Edited by Frenetic Zetetic - July 15 2018 at 03:45

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Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

[QUOTE=The Dark Elf] I could have mentioned Andrew Lang as well. Wink


A Scottish hippy fantasist? (he and Donovan must have eluded our death squads)[/QUOTE

So, I better keep running then....


Didn't realise you were a Scot. You can have your death penalty commuted to 'a damn good kicking' Big smile
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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

"Bass has to be played with fingers only, or it doesn't count!"
Damn, the 20 years I’ve spent learning to play bass with my appendix were wasted
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"You've got to be stoned to enjoy this."
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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

"You've got to be stoned to enjoy this."

sadly some people actually believe that, heard it quite a few times being said that Pink Floyd is stoner music. 

I've never got stoned and I enjoy a ton of prog-rock. What's wrong with me?
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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

"progma" sounds like some gland in the body. "doctor, my progma hurts"

Excellent portmanteau! Clap

Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

"Bass has to be played with fingers only, or it doesn't count!"
Damn, the 20 years I’ve spent learning to play bass with my appendix were wasted 

Damn! LOL
 
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

"You've got to be stoned to enjoy this."

sadly some people actually believe that, heard it quite a few times being said that Pink Floyd is stoner music. 

I've never got stoned and I enjoy a ton of prog-rock. What's wrong with me?

I think it's what naturally happens when people are raised on 4/4, paint-by-number pop song structure. They get their dopamine kick in 3:30, vs our 20:30 lol.

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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

"You've got to be stoned to enjoy this."

sadly some people actually believe that, heard it quite a few times being said that Pink Floyd is stoner music. 

I've never got stoned and I enjoy a ton of prog-rock. What's wrong with me?

Strangely enough though, there are songs and bands that are simply better to listen to than others when one is stoned.






Or so I've heard. Sick
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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

[QUOTE=The Dark Elf] I could have mentioned Andrew Lang as well. Wink


A Scottish hippy fantasist? (he and Donovan must have eluded our death squads)[/QUOTE

So, I better keep running then....


Didn't realise you were a Scot. You can have your death penalty commuted to 'a damn good kicking' Big smile
 

Apologies, actually only two of those adjectives (er.. is Hippy and adjective? Hippyish.. anyway..) apply to me and thank you kindly i'll take the kicking (it wont be the first..)WinkLOL

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