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    Posted: August 14 2018 at 22:16
Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

I like Front Page News, but it's a pop album.
 

Yeah I like it a lot too. Very 'soft rock' sound to it, I like that. One of my favorite albums by them for sure. 
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Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

The ones I have are those two, and Ashes are Burning itself, plus the Live at Carnegie Hall... once again, I believe the live versions are better than the originals... there's not much difference, really, the songs only sound more lively or something... except for Ashes are Burning itself, which is about 10 min long on the album, but is streched to 24 minutes live, though mostly because of some extended jamming in the middle, and an extended final passage... but the thing is, as I said, thay had this electric guitar in studio, and since they didn't have an electric guitar player, Annie just took that part to herself with some incredible and chilling vocalizations. You should really check it out.
 

Oh wow, yeah I'll have to do that then. Sounds great. 
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The ones I have are those two, and Ashes are Burning itself, plus the Live at Carnegie Hall... once again, I believe the live versions are better than the originals... there's not much difference, really, the songs only sound more lively or something... except for Ashes are Burning itself, which is about 10 min long on the album, but is streched to 24 minutes live, though mostly because of some extended jamming in the middle, and an extended final passage... but the thing is, as I said, thay had this electric guitar in studio, and since they didn't have an electric guitar player, Annie just took that part to herself with some incredible and chilling vocalizations. You should really check it out.
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Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

^ Have you heard that song in both versions? And yeah, her voice is just something else. Definitley my favourite female singers, and one of my 3 favourite singers overall.
 

No. I've just heard Turn of the Cards and Scheherazade and other Stories. I like both a lot, but I'll have to check out Ashes are Burning next. I agree with you, her voice is so good
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I think you've explained your rationale quite well. As for Bill, it was Savoy Brown, unless someone out there would like to correct me.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2018 at 14:00
Originally posted by Rednight Rednight wrote:

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It’s a very good album, I think.
You think? And didn't Bruford once consider joining 'Ash?


I don't know anything with absolute certainty, including that I don't know anything with absolute certainty.   I enjoy it -- at least I think I enjoy it, or I think that I think that I enjoy it.... Or I don't think at all. As for Bruford, I don't remember reading anything about that before, but I might have.

Maybe this is all a dream, but whose dream, I wonder?

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Ahhhhhh, maybe that was Savoy Brown.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

It’s a very good album, I think.
You think? And didn't Bruford once consider joining 'Ash?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote octopus-4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 14 2018 at 07:58
I like Front Page News, but it's a pop album.
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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

The hard part was logging-in, posting, and then getting past Captcha to get an answer posted in three minutes. Wouldn't it be cool if Captcha used Prog album cover images. Click on the album images not Dark Side of the Moon. Now choose [insert album cover exclusively on bandcamp made on a Commodore64 in mum's basement that almost no one knows].

I expect that there are many who know much more than me. Aside from my flurry of collecting over a decade ago and time spent evaluating music here, at least I've spent enough time in the database to know quite a few, but I suspect that the Errors and Omissions Team would win the prize if we ever had a "Guess that album cover" contest (and some of our prolific reviewers, and other prolific additions people, would do well too). I don't know that much when it comes to modern Prog particularly.

Argus is an iconic album. I like the first two considerably too. I hold the second album, Pilgrimage, in higher regard than many -- got some really good music per my tastes on it. "Vas Dis" is great fun, and "The Pilgrim" is a very good track, I think.
Pilgrimage has been my first WA purchase. Vas Dis is really a great track but I agree that Argus is their best.

Those first three WA albums have some great stuff. I haven't found much of their work after Argus that really grabs me.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

The hard part was logging-in, posting, and then getting past Captcha to get an answer posted in three minutes. Wouldn't it be cool if Captcha used Prog album cover images. Click on the album images not Dark Side of the Moon. Now choose [insert album cover exclusively on bandcamp made on a Commodore64 in mum's basement that almost no one knows].

I expect that there are many who know much more than me. Aside from my flurry of collecting over a decade ago and time spent evaluating music here, at least I've spent enough time in the database to know quite a few, but I suspect that the Errors and Omissions Team would win the prize if we ever had a "Guess that album cover" contest (and some of our prolific reviewers, and other prolific additions people, would do well too). I don't know that much when it comes to modern Prog particularly.

Argus is an iconic album. I like the first two considerably too. I hold the second album, Pilgrimage, in higher regard than many -- got some really good music per my tastes on it. "Vas Dis" is great fun, and "The Pilgrim" is a very good track, I think.
Pilgrimage has been my first WA purchase. Vas Dis is really a great track but I agree that Argus is their best.
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Strange coincidence. I have Argus on vinyl but have never spun it...but I got a CD copy about three weeks ago....weird...
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^ Have you heard that song in both versions? And yeah, her voice is just something else. Definitley my favourite female singers, and one of my 3 favourite singers overall.
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Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

Wow, Dellinger and the OP.. you both should listen to some Wishbone Ash sometime, I promise you they're REALLY good. Have a lot of great albums besides Argus. New England, Front Page News, Wishbone Four.. to name just a few. For a long time they were my favorite band, they're that good. 


The only connection to their music that I have heard is the guitar solo from the guitar player on the song Ashes are Burning from Renaissance... though I much prefer the 20+ min version of the song in which those guitars were replaced by some wonderful vocalizations from Annie.


Oh man, I love her singing. And liking that band more and more.


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Originally posted by YESESIS YESESIS wrote:

Wow, Dellinger and the OP.. you both should listen to some Wishbone Ash sometime, I promise you they're REALLY good. Have a lot of great albums besides Argus. New England, Front Page News, Wishbone Four.. to name just a few. For a long time they were my favorite band, they're that good. 


The only connection to their music that I have heard is the guitar solo from the guitar player on the song Ashes are Burning from Renaissance... though I much prefer the 20+ min version of the song in which those guitars were replaced by some wonderful vocalizations from Annie.
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Argus is a solid album , and so are the first two.....fine bluesy rock with some folk and even some jazzy overtones at times. I recall buying the first one at college because I liked the cover and name . Pilgrimage and of course Argus were even more popular. I thought they lost their edge on the later albums though there are some decent tracks here and there on the later ones.



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Sounds like Argus (Wishbone Ash). Great album!




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tempest_77 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2018 at 04:09
It was Argus; already answered. Interesting observation though; that description could apply to either one. Both great albums.
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Avalon album cover.jpg This? or this? Wishbone Ash - Argus.jpg


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I found the old cassette tape in the garage! It was a C120, so is probably unplayable now. Looks like I managed to squeeze in the following on the 'Best of' selection I home-taped from my old vinyls:

Blind Eye/Lady Whiskey/Phoenix/The Pilgrim/Jailbait/Time Was/Sometime World/Blowing Free/The King Will Come/Leaf and Stream/Warrior/Throw Down the Sword/Ballad of the Beacon/Persephone/Outward Bound/Stand and Deliver/In the Skin.

Definitely Argus-heavy and nowadays I'd have added some extra earlier and latter tracks too - but in those days you were definitely limited by the cassette tape length and not the system storage space!
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