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Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

I frankly neve got into Bruce Spreengsteen, and I didn't know about this album. It sounds intersting and I think I'll give it a try. Thanks for the tip.

Hi, Manuel, if you listen to the record, in my opinion Kitty's Back and New York City Serenade are masterpieces. And Sandy and Incident on 57th Street are remarkable.
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Originally posted by Squonk19 Squonk19 wrote:

I've been a huge Bruce Springsteen fan since the late 70s, but on this forum I've rarely mentioned him, as frankly he does not fit the prog style to any extent. However, I do admire your attempt to put a 'progressive' gloss on the 2nd album - The Wild.....!

He was still finding his own style after the Dylanesque debut, Greetings.... and it would only be with Born to Run that the
template was found. However, you are right to highlight the whirl of different genres and styles on The Wild... album. It is very jazz-orientated in places and very few artists brought out that mix of folk, rock, blues, Latin/Spanish, jazz and soul influences along with long-form improvisation, at the time (Steely Dan, perhaps?) It was actually that eclectic mix that made it a difficult sell at the time to the record-buying public and threatened his career with Columbia etc. However, retrospectively if was a daring mix and 'progressive' in its scope, if not with the 'prog' overtones we tend to judge the genre by (rightly or wrongly).

'Incident...' is a true classic and the prequel to the sublime 'Jungleland', while 'Rosalita' was the workhorse of live concerts for decades to come. I've shouted out "The record company, Rosie, just gave me a big advance!" too many times to mention at concerts over the years!

Anyway....nice to discuss the Boss on PA for a change - although don't think we'll be doing it too much more in the months to come, though!

I'm a fan of Springsteen since I saw him in concert in Italy in 1988. Even today, his concerts of three and a half hours are authentic moments of pathos, in which we see a man put his soul. I have not yet experienced similar emotions with other artists. Only when I saw in concert Nick Cave, the Van der Graaf Generator and Roger Waters I felt something that could come close.

Anyway, It's clear that The Wild... is not a prog album. But It is a great album of folk-blues-jazz- rock fusion. And I note that on this site there are Steely Dan (jazz-rock/fusion) and Tim Buckley (prog folk). I think both are very far from progressive, as usually understood. I guees that Kitty's Back and Incident on 57th Street are closer to the prog of any song by Steely Dan - and maybe even Buckley (except Lorca and something else).


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^ still waiting for Mellencamp's long rumored prog album haha.

respect for Springstein..though he loses Micky points for bringing Courtney Cox on stage and unleashed a plague on popular culture for a number of years...

but was always a Mellencamp guy. He was genuine heartland rock.. Springstein was something different. A product of cynical side of the music business
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Springsteen? I'm still waiting for Yoko's prog album to come out.
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Today I only listen to the acoustic Nebraska but was a huge fan in the seventies/early eighties - still great respect for the guy, though.

(and The Wild... was one of the best, agreed !)
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Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

I frankly neve got into Bruce Spreengsteen, and I didn't know about this album. It sounds intersting and I think I'll give it a try. Thanks for the tip.
 
it's one of his better ones... I could imagine make an OK compilation CD-r of his first four albums (from Greetings to Darkness) , retaining the tracks I like, but >I'm not sure I'd be able to fill it to the brim (80 minutes) without resorting to second-rate stuff..... but even if I did that, I probably would never listen to it, since all the selection-process would've dried up my patience for Bruuuuuuuce for the next century to come. Big smile
 
 
 
 
I started disliking him and his over-exposure from The River onwards ... and TBH, I have no idea what he's done in the last four decades.
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I frankly neve got into Bruce Spreengsteen, and I didn't know about this album. It sounds intersting and I think I'll give it a try. Thanks for the tip.
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I've been a huge Bruce Springsteen fan since the late 70s, but on this forum I've rarely mentioned him, as frankly he does not fit the prog style to any extent. However, I do admire your attempt to put a 'progressive' gloss on the 2nd album - The Wild.....!

He was still finding his own style after the Dylanesque debut, Greetings.... and it would only be with Born to Run that the
template was found. However, you are right to highlight the whirl of different genres and styles on The Wild... album. It is very jazz-orientated in places and very few artists brought out that mix of folk, rock, blues, Latin/Spanish, jazz and soul influences along with long-form improvisation, at the time (Steely Dan, perhaps?) It was actually that eclectic mix that made it a difficult sell at the time to the record-buying public and threatened his career with Columbia etc. However, retrospectively if was a daring mix and 'progressive' in its scope, if not with the 'prog' overtones we tend to judge the genre by (rightly or wrongly).

'Incident...' is a true classic and the prequel to the sublime 'Jungleland', while 'Rosalita' was the workhorse of live concerts for decades to come. I've shouted out "The record company, Rosie, just gave me a big advance!" too many times to mention at concerts over the years!

Anyway....nice to discuss the Boss on PA for a change - although don't think we'll be doing it too much more in the months to come, though!

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Do you Know "The Wild, The Innocent and the E Street Shuffle"?
Risultati immagini per the wild the innocent
It is the second album by Springsteen, released in 1973, when the progressive spread. It is composed of 7 songs, 4 of which are the best, with a duration between 7 and 10 minutes. it is an album that mixes rock with folk, blues, tex-mex, soul and jazz. The music, as well as the Bruce band, is mixed: partly white, partly black, partly hispanic (I think it's the first musical band to have such a great ethnic mix: two white, two black and one mexican). 

The first song is a shuffle with the winds, with Spanish cadences. The second song, Sandy, is magnificent, with an accordion solo and a xylophone solo: in fact, a folk-prog. The third song is a rock blues with a decided progressive instrumental interlude, which reaches a dissonant paroxysm. The fourth song is another folk-texmex, with accordion and tuba. 
End first side. 

On the second side there are three long songs. Incident on 57Th street is again a song that combines more musical genres, with the presence of two pianos (one for cash) and an organ. It is mixed, as if it were a single suite, with Rosalita, another 7-minute rock-blues-soul. The album ends with the masterpiece New York City Serenade, which opens with a three minute piano jazz solo (by David Sancious) and ends with a melodic crescendo. 

It's an album that has street texts: the protagonists are prostitutes, pimps, Spaniards, little scammers, blacks, street boys but also young boys and girls chasing a romantic dream. And music is a fusion of all American popular music, and it is overflowing music, which in its generosity has very progressive-rock passages.

I recommend it to those who can appreciate this fusion of American popular music, and to those who want to know another face of Springsteen.
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